Kuwahara experts required

[youngy]

Hi guys, Could any Kuwahara experts help me out, is this a KZ1 or not??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280211008661
Bought on impulse without checking, guy was genuine but after looking on the kuwahara site I'm beginning to doubt its authenticity. Rear drop outs not like those on the Kz1 but like the KE, but then has double gusset???
Don't really know much about Kuwwi's but always liked them as a kid!! Help needed!!
HEEELP!!!
Thanks
Graham

[kuwahero]

not a KZ1 im afraid mate. its probably an Akisu frame which you've paid a bit much for.

[youngy]

Right, I've checked on the Jamies Kuwahara site and the drop outs vary on the KZ1, some have the holes but on the red one in BMX Action magazine has the one like mine, also the serial no. on mine begins with T( can't rememeber rest!!) which makes it Tange made so I think it is a KZ1 and the seller is saying this is what he bought it as.
Thanks for help and all replies appreciated

Graham  

[pkradman]

kuwie did make the early kz1 `s  with the even earlier style  rear ke-1 dropouts  , call it the change over if u like ,,  tange made the early kuwies and were stamped with "T" at the start of the serial number .. nice kz1 u have there 

[kuwahero]

I stand corrected. it was the rear dropouts that made me think not a KZ1 in first place. 

youngy post some better pics when you get it mate.

marc

[bodamus]

Oh man gutted how did I miss that one I've been after one of the early ones for ages. Like Radman says they are the first KZ-1 Frames after the KE-1's so probably very very early 1980.

You know where to come if you ever fancy selling it mate.

bodamus

[Dark Diggler]

I do like to see a happy ending on a thread of this nature.

Top bombing Youngy 

[jT Racing]

nice kuwi. good early bike, flip it for a profit. i'm sure ian would free the moths from his wallet for that one.

[youngy]

Guys thanks for all the replies as usual your help is invaluable Panic over!!! Didn't think the seller would rip me off as far too genuine when I met up with him and fair play rang me straight away when i contacted to reassure me, there are some good people out there still Might actually get to build something rather than just buying bits although as has been said thats the best bit!!

PKRadman have pm'd re padsets just wondering if you could help. Thanks
Bodamus have pm'd

Cheers guys

[dj_benice]

Nice one Gra, I have some rather unusual well one frame pad that I am getting a full set made from, if you fancy summat different

Peas owt
Pete
p.s. hows the mx comin on

[youngy]

wouldn't mind seeing them  pads Pete Still gathering bits for the MX11, missed out on a full pad set on ebay the other day, could afford to keep bidding as spent too much lately on other stuff, but its getting there. Still need the blue tuffs though!!
Will have to meet up again soon matey

[dj_benice]

wouldn't mind seeing them  pads Pete Still gathering bits for the MX11, missed out on a full pad set on ebay the other day, could afford to keep bidding as spent too much lately on other stuff, but its getting there. Still need the blue tuffs though!!
Will have to meet up again soon matey

There ya go pop in whenever just give me a call first

[youngy]

Hi guys here you go pics, just been seeing how to post pics and thought I'd try these.
Nice in it

[kuwahero]

very nice mate. chrome looks great should be nice when its built up. what colour scheme you going for.

marc

[youngy]

Not keeping it mate Bodamus offered a good deal on trades so will be doing a later survivor which matches my repro one, dropouts the same. will be chrome/ blue. Just thought I'd let you see the pics as you asked.
cheers Mate

[Frosty]

Lucky Ian, that is one of the sweetest frames I have seen in a long time.

Looks like a quality re-chrome too.