Author Topic: Is the BMX OS bubble beginning to burst or are people worried about spending? (Read 5089 times)

Tefore · « **Reply #25 on:** March 19, 2008, 10:00 PM »

maybe my thought of reason here is wrong here but if these items were not high value we would not want to collect them. otherwise we would all be riding around on aero reflex's?.

or shall i get my coat

jackel · « **Reply #26 on:** March 19, 2008, 10:04 PM »

i,d love the prices to drop ive got quite a few bits but truth be known i,d like a few more bikes to push my gobi over the edge. ive got my eye on a couple at the moment and if prices drop coolio the bits i need will be cheaper

dont think it will though but never know

stuntmaster · « **Reply #27 on:** March 19, 2008, 10:10 PM »

big dog there loads of stuff still out there that a lot of peeps keep hold off , i know of a least 5 peeps who have loads of mx1000 and won`t sell them and people like biaggio still have loads but he only sell the stuff he doesn`t want .i must admit i have 7 crates full of old skool stuff but won`t sell any of it as most of it is for long term projects and untill those projects are done that stuff will never see light of day .
recession or not most people will keep the stuff than sell as most peeps took a long time looking for a certain bit

Waxintaxin · « **Reply #28 on:** March 19, 2008, 11:06 PM »

Its a strange one for sure
Prices are up and down like a yo yo in the last 6months , but they rose steeply just before that ,so maybe adjusting to take into account that stoopid 6 months of silly prices is right and proper

yes i think its about time for the market to drop some , and collectors who only have bought recently ,who may only be collecting short term , may dump there stuff to ensure they dont lose out
but collectors who will never sell stuff ,will always exist and as more of these type of collector joins the hobby then supply drops and prices rise

the question is how many potential collectors are there still out these ,as this more than anything will dictate prices

the good stuff is gone , and only ltd ammounts of lower priced items remain ,so do the math

i reckon 20% drop in prices in the next year, but a ripper is always worth 350 to someone , maybe not 600 as we have seen, but unless we are all skint as the crunch turn into a major disaster,its got to have some value to someone

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Trev · « **Reply #29 on:** March 20, 2008, 12:11 AM »

well this site is an indication of how many people are out there. we are constantly getting new members aboard. some come in, have a browse then disappear never to be seen again. some just like the memories, some new school. some will want just the one OS bike to build. but then they may get "the bug" and want more.
i'd say maybe 10-15 in every 100 new members will want to build at least one OS bike. Out of that maybe 2 or 3 will want to build more.
i can understand the serious collectors wanting to hoard stuff as they'll know how hard it is to come by this sort of stuff, so won't want to risk selling something that they might need in 6 months or a year later and end up paying 2 or 3 times the amount and spend forever waiting for it to come along.

Brandy Truffle · « **Reply #30 on:** March 20, 2008, 11:21 AM »

I've been registered on Rad since end Oct,so about 4 and half months. Age 39. Raced from late 82 until early 86 when serious collarbone injury finished me off.

I actually found Rad via a link from an ebay members auction purely by accident,took alook at the museum and the rest is history.

In just these few months i've seen the price of a Kashimax Aero go from 45-50 to 100 quid. I bought a red and yellow for less than 50 each and the blue was 60 not a couple months ago. All bagged & 'NOS' (another word i'd never heard of before RAD). I needed some brakes,obviously MX1000 were the caliper of choice from that era,so i bought a few of those. Even 3 months ago i was paying 20 quid for a used caliper in great condition and 90 quid a pair 'NOS'. I bought a rarer set of Blue for 110..now they'll fetch upwards of 160-70 plus if the right people are interested.

My personal experience and fook it,i'm gonna name names here,is there are some people on RAD who will do you a good deal and will bend over backwards to help you find what you need.. stand up Matt Bigdogg,Jai SEBmxer,Andy Funmonster,Crazycraig,Pete Dj Benice,Jimwise.. All guys that dont know me from Adam personally,but in the spirit of RAD have sourced me some otherwise (to me) unobtainable parts at very fair prices. I'm sure there are more,but these are just some i've dealt with.

Then you have some members putting stuff up at crazy prices then,what? to save face? saying "SOLD". (Think Brakes...) Do me a favour.It makes you look like a desparate twat as they havent really sold..and if they have at that price then the buyer must be just as bad! Dont even get me started on the w4nker who was shill bidding his stuff on ebay and still has the nerve to come on here.

The good people of this forum have the power to somewhat dictate what these parts go for.. yet there seem a few who just take the p155.

I've found it interesting that (the majority) of people i've dealt with,or look at their profiles on here) are 35-42, which would make them in their teens freestylin or racin in the early mid eighties where we call Old School now. All the demand for parts is commin from this age group of people mostly and as time moves on and peoples interest wanes,family takes over etc etc who is going to wanting to build these bikes from that era. It seems only the people who really lived it back then are interested in building or reliving the bike they had. Will mid school as is now become the new old school.... ultimately yes, i hear kids talk about old school bmx's now and they are referring tp early mid 90's! They dont give a fook about what came before.

People sitting on gear are going to be in for a shock sooner or later i think. 250 quid for a set of brakes is just taking the p1ss. Where can it go.

What i spent on a set of Flights for my build in December was more than my whole race budget during 1984.Crazy! I know it's ultimately all about supply and demand but it doesnt make things any easier to swallow when you're not in it for the money,you just want to build a couple of nice old school bikes you either had in the 80's or desparately wanted but couldnt afford.

With 2 members on ebay spending between 2 and 4k each last month ALONE on purely old school parts,i dont see the prices of top end stuff slipping while they are (crazy) enough to keep digging deep. (How much stuff do they need?)

So,cutting all my rambling and babble above out, i've seen prices rocket in the few months ive been here, to the point where just one part i'd like is the same as the amount of money it would cost to send my little boy to France for a tennis coaching school holiday,or my little girl a years fees for Dancing lessons and i've seriously got to stop.Think. Wonder whether it's time to bow out already. (..and i was having such fun as well..)

perry · « **Reply #31 on:** March 20, 2008, 11:55 AM »

regarding all the mid skool stuff

in the 80s it was a very big sport , bikes were common place everywhere . dont forget its nt just peole interested in bmx that will be buying that stuff its people inteested in items from the 80s in general as bmx was a big part of it for a lot of people

in the 90s it was only the people that loved riding that stuck at it , sure it picked up more from 95 ( when i got into it ) but there is a far fewer percentage of people that had bikes then and it was a far from rosey image to the general public having a load of grunge kids smashing benchs and whatnot . it wont hold as high a significance to the era as it did in the 80s

sure there will always be the people like me that want to build a bike that they couldnt afford from the 90s but its far less

i doubt a primo rod will ever have a high worth

i might pick up an s&m laf to keep in the box for future nostalgia though

maybe i should snap up hundreds of odyssey hazard lite rims and hubs for a future business

darkersomeday · « **Reply #32 on:** March 20, 2008, 12:22 PM »

as one of the very first to show an interest in the O/S bikes i've seen more changes in price than 99% of the members on here

haro master bikes,brand new, boxed £200 anyone?

back in the mid 90's folk used to give me old school bikes for free just to get rid of them! i bet theres a few on here that have come out of my loft

in the last 10/11 years prices have just gone up and up as more people get involved, like rich said, stuff is running out, people that build/resto bikes to w@nk about usually see them as their "work" so they keep them,

there are still great bargains to be had, just not whats currently trendy or seen as "classic" (ie mx's)
it actually forces people to be more creative in the parts they use, having stuff re-annodized etc,

we've even seen "retro" bmx's brought out to cater for those less choosey about their bikes "heritage"
its the way of the world unfortunately $:-\$

for me though, tbh, the only area of all this malarkey that still offers any kind of real excitement building and sourcing wise is the mid school and even thats on the rise

pretty much ALL the old school bikes have been done to death, so much so that folk are getting desperate to find frames like the holeshot just because they havent been seen as much as the others! nothing to do with whether or not they were actually any good!

brass monkey! · « **Reply #33 on:** March 20, 2008, 12:46 PM »

Yeah, for sure as the credit crunch hits, people are gonna curb spending big, if the prices don't fall only a few are going to be able to afford to pay, and on an ebay auction prices will eventually fall as it takes 2 high bids to make a good market price…,

Disposable income is the key to any hobby, so when push comes to shove (and I Mean big shove; Utilities bill up, council tax up, food bills up, mortgage rates up, lending up….i could go on !!) you need to make compromises. For now I've no plans to buy, or sell….sh!te ain't it !

Just got my new Council Tax bill in today, UP 4.7% ! FFS !!

Personally I think the 'buzz' has diminished too..,

I remember the euphoria of getting my first build done (Hutch Trickstar), and although I've put almost a dozen builds together since then I feel you get a diminishing return each time.

Haven't bought much this year..,.

…and I just got a promotion at work, but even my 12% pay rise and 4.5% cost of living increase on top of that hasn't tempted me so far…., I am waiting to find out how much my mortgage is going to increase first (in June)!

thebigdog · « **Reply #34 on:** March 20, 2008, 04:38 PM »

Quote from: stuntmaster on March 19, 2008, 10:10 PM

big dog there loads of stuff still out there that a lot of peeps keep hold off , i know of a least 5 peeps who have loads of mx1000 and won`t sell them and people like biaggio still have loads but he only sell the stuff he doesn`t want .i must admit i have 7 crates full of old skool stuff but won`t sell any of it as most of it is for long term projects and untill those projects are done that stuff will never see light of day .
recession or not most people will keep the stuff than sell as most peeps took a long time looking for a certain bit

I know there is stuff out there but its in peoples own collections and a lot of it is not for sale.

If you take Haro tyres as an example, 12 months ago you could get pretty much any colour from Vert-Ego, Skatepool, Rudewheels, Alans Rainers Etc Etc and they were all under £40 a pair

12 months later you can get Green, Pink, Radberry and with a little extra work you might find some White

If you want any other colour you got to wait for someone to sell on Ebay, Rad or some other forum.
Shiners were supplying all the shops above with Haro tyres and now they can not as they do not have any.

Last set of Blue Haro tyres I sold on Ebay went for £96, the set before was £85 but what I think will happen is....... they will come right down because people will find it too hard to get stuff to build a bike and they will find something new to amuse them.

se-bmxer · « **Reply #35 on:** March 20, 2008, 08:56 PM »

Quote from: thebigdog on March 20, 2008, 04:38 PM

If you take Haro tyres as an example, 12 months ago you could get pretty much any colour from Vert-Ego, Skatepool, Rudewheels, Alans Rainers Etc Etc and they were all under £40 a pair
12 months later you can get Green, Pink, Radberry and with a little extra work you might find some White If you want any other colour you got to wait for someone to sell on Ebay, Rad or some other forum.
Shiners were supplying all the shops above with Haro tyres and now they can not as they do not have any.

I can vouch for that, im in Shiners very week due to my job with Se bikes when i first started going im there in 2003 there were loads of Haro's Hutch's SE's F&F
Haro tyres and panaracer freestyle tyres in all colours. The only thing left regarding Haro's F&F is the odd paint damaged ones, no hutch's or SE's that they are
selling. Not so long ago they had loads of Haro Group 1's RS1 F&F there are none now. That also goes for the more common items that are sold on Radbmx
like stems, seatclamps, 901's, etc things are drying up and when it does prices will rise for nos stuff. You only have to look Vert-Ego, Skatepool, Rudewheels, Alans
there stock is running out, soon it will just be the crap stuff being sold.

Theres loads of Aero Reflex's left if anyone wants a cheap build, i think theres around 80 left

its33 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 20, 2008, 09:31 PM »

and in 5 yearst time you wont be able to give it away,fashion,FASHION,RETRO COOL

Tefore · « **Reply #37 on:** March 20, 2008, 09:56 PM »

Quote from: darkersomeday on March 20, 2008, 12:22 PM

as one of the very first to show an interest in the O/S bikes i've seen more changes in price than 99% of the members on here
haro master bikes,brand new, boxed £200 anyone?
back in the mid 90's folk used to give me old school bikes for free just to get rid of them! i bet theres a few on here that have come out of my loft

in the last 10/11 years prices have just gone up and up as more people get involved, like rich said, stuff is running out, people that build/resto bikes to w@nk about usually see them as their "work" so they keep them,

there are still great bargains to be had, just not whats currently trendy or seen as "classic" (ie mx's)
it actually forces people to be more creative in the parts they use, having stuff re-annodized etc,

we've even seen "retro" bmx's brought out to cater for those less choosey about their bikes "heritage"
its the way of the world unfortunately $:-\$

for me though, tbh, the only area of all this malarkey that still offers any kind of real excitement building and sourcing wise is the mid school and even thats on the rise

pretty much ALL the old school bikes have been done to death, so much so that folk are getting desperate to find frames like the holeshot just because they havent been seen as much as the others! nothing to do with whether or not they were actually any good!

dont forget them haro masters . the first sets for sale included flights.lol

magna13 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 21, 2008, 09:04 AM »

I Also Think The Prices Have Gone Mad!, Raleigh Aero Pro F+F Fetch Lots Of Money, £1400 Skyway Graphites, £127 Sugino Maxy Cross Pedals, £100 One Peice Crank Sets, £1000 Skyway T/A's, £500+ For A Hucth Plate,£250 JT Racing Helmet, And $800 For Profile Gen Two's. I Could Be Here For Day Listing The Expense

Waxintaxin · « **Reply #39 on:** March 21, 2008, 09:42 AM »

but prices are falling
so anyone collecting to make money could get burned

magna13 · « **Reply #40 on:** March 21, 2008, 09:45 AM »

Quote from: Waxintaxin on March 21, 2008, 09:42 AM

but prices are falling
so anyone collecting to make money could get burned

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #41 on:** March 21, 2008, 10:01 AM »

ive had some real bargains recently. prices are dropping definately. i havnt built anything for ages, but now prices are coming down, ive started building the odd thing.

QUADROPHENIA · « **Reply #42 on:** March 21, 2008, 10:09 AM »

spoke to radman about this yesterday and there has deffo been bargains to be had over the last 6 weeks, so bit of luck they will keep going down and stay down

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #43 on:** March 21, 2008, 10:09 AM »

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Waxintaxin · « **Reply #44 on:** March 21, 2008, 10:14 AM »

I know , I got some black tech 3s for 22 quid a set
and these have been silly money for awhile
it seems that disposable income and ressesion are closely linked , and hobbys go first

crazycraig · « **Reply #45 on:** March 21, 2008, 10:19 AM »

i was only laundering cash anyway

Waxintaxin · « **Reply #46 on:** March 21, 2008, 10:21 AM »

Gashead · « **Reply #47 on:** March 21, 2008, 10:22 AM »

Deffo seen a price drop on a few selected items !

Think a bargin time is looming

Rombloke · « **Reply #48 on:** March 21, 2008, 10:46 AM »

the price hike is deffo over, i got these the other week for Â£35, ok they needed a clean....but hell.....

yes...dc 1000's and tech 3's.....

the arsehole is gonna drop from this stuff

Dave

jimwise68 · « **Reply #49 on:** March 21, 2008, 10:49 AM »

Quote from: Rom Bloke on March 21, 2008, 10:46 AM

the price hike is deffo over, i got these the other week for Â£35, ok they needed a clean....but hell.....

yes...dc 1000's and tech 3's.....

the arsehole is gonna drop from this stuff

Dave

Dave, give you Â£350 for em

Author Topic: Is the BMX OS bubble beginning to burst or are people worried about spending? (Read 5089 times)

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