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Offline Bigplinky

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Posted this in midschool but didn't get a reply so I'll try my luck here

Anybody tell me the year from this (PK0008)? or is there a seperate date stamp somewhere on them (it's a Pitbull model)



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Andy
« Last Edit: February 22, 2008, 10:58 PM by Bigplinky »
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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2008, 11:48 PM »
Needle in a haystack, Andy. I've seen so many conflicting facts all i can tell you is it's 90-95 although i've only seen proof of mass produced Bulldog frames from 92 and they changed to inch and an 8th in 94 but they did both head set types for a while so it could be later.  ??? :idiot2:

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2008, 07:04 AM »
Thanks Bob forgot to add it's 1" headset.
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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 09:05 PM »
hi, the XL i used to have, had brake cable lugs on the down-tube (most models have them on the top-tube),and a hole for a brake behind the back wheel.  Serial no. PK3060. Apparently, these are quite rare; from what I can find out, we're talking 1989 (but don't quote me on that!).  Also, the rarest XL is the one with the straight tubes on the chain-stay.
Hope that is of some help. Can you post a picture of the full frame?
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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2008, 09:14 PM »
The non-loop PK with straight chainstay would be a 85-86 model with a 19.5 " top tube
Way before the XL PK which was introduced in the early nineties (20.5 or 21")

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2008, 09:15 PM »
Mine was an 87 Pitbull brake, can't remember the serial, it was Bodamus's before me so he may remember :-[


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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2008, 09:22 PM »
"Common knowledge" reckons these are 90-92 models, mr Banana
Are you sure of the year?

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2008, 09:41 PM »
The pitbull model was early nineties, I have the test from Ride when it came out plus the pitbull wasn't even out on 87 was it?

bananadude, i reckon that's an early 90s bike mate.

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 10:10 PM »
Check out page two of the museum under Bodamus, he had the frame from the USA years ago and I think it was boxed and dated 87...........

I am only goin off his say so.........I don't have it anymore so couldn't check :-[

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2008, 10:56 PM »
It's interesting how many dates appear when you mention XL's and when they started production, I've got a few late 80's  / early 90's mags I'm gonna have a look in those and see when they first get a mention.

Here is pic of full frame as requested it's a bit rough but sound under the shit powder coat job



Thanks for the help guys  :daumenhoch:
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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2008, 04:30 AM »
I delved deep in Pk variants and did a post on it about a year or so ago i'll have a look if i can find it

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 08:39 AM »
Mine was an 87 Pitbull brake, can't remember the serial, it was Bodamus's before me so he may remember :-[



thats the same as the one i had 1987 the first of the non looptail.(maybe)
« Last Edit: February 21, 2008, 08:44 AM by lazyboy »

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 08:41 AM »
It's interesting how many dates appear when you mention XL's and when they started production, I've got a few late 80's  / early 90's mags I'm gonna have a look in those and see when they first get a mention.

Here is pic of full frame as requested it's a bit rough but sound under the shit powder coat job



Thanks for the help guys  :daumenhoch:
yep 1987 its a good un.

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2008, 08:58 AM »
I delved deep in Pk variants and did a post on it about a year or so ago i'll have a look if i can find it

Thanks for that post Bob, this summed up some "common knowledge" I was referring to  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2008, 09:04 AM »

thats the same as the one i had 1987 the first of the non looptail.(maybe)

I dont know much about PKs, but from reading some of the stuff General Lee has written about his frames, I think the first non loop tailed frame was the "straight stay" one, which had ..... well .... straight chainstays. I guess there was a problem with crank clearance on the straight stay ones, so they then changed to the curved chainstay like that one.

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2008, 05:59 PM »
I think the confusion here is when SE started to offer the XL version the basic design of the frame in standard length was definately out by 87 but that would have the standard Pro top tube length of 19.5" the question is did they offer the XL version at the same time or did this come later

Hope you find that thread Bob it should become a sticky

Thanks for the input all  :daumenhoch:
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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2008, 06:42 AM »
Heres mine:-





needs some work on the drop outs but I would love to know what year it is???

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2008, 04:45 PM »
Here you go, it was two years ago...

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=11932.msg132969#msg132969

Mark yours is the same model as Andys and is the variant which is hardest to nail down because of all the conflicting rumours.

I've since learned from Scott that they did indeed make XL PK's in Asia.

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2008, 10:56 PM »
OK I've been doing abit of digging through BMX Plus and come up with the following

The launch of the Pitbull brake August 1988



Frame test from September 89. This shows no hole behind the bottom bracket for a Pitbull and doesn't list a XL varient of the frame.



Frame round up from June 91. This lists no XL varient of the frame and also the frame shown has no cable guides on the front triangle down tube which would make me guess it also has no Pitbull mount



Had a look through my 92 mags (but unfortunatally have a big gap in them in the middle to the end of the year) and noticed the following April 92 no shops list a PK Ripper XL frame for sale. The next mag I have is December 92 and in this the XL is now listed for sale so I can only guess at the following: the Pitbull mount and XL varient appeared at the same time in Mid 92.

Anybody with mid 92 BMX Plus get looking through them for a launch article

Cheers

Andy

Bob get that sticky made  :daumenhoch:
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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers (dating scans now added it a 92! (maybe))
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2008, 11:07 PM »
Interesting thread Andy ... I'll find out the frame # on my NOS Ripper F+F. I'll be keen to know the year of this one too  :-\



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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers (dating scans now added it a 92! (maybe))
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2008, 01:06 AM »
XL is about 1990 ish...  so the story goes ;)
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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers (dating scans now added it a 92! (maybe))
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2008, 09:26 AM »
got 2 of these one with pitbull the other with pitbull and canti with brake bridge which i am in process of buildin up.it is gonna be a rider lookin 2 run a newskool seat and post anyone know of a post 2 fit any help appreciated ps dingo been seein your rides on vintage 4 a few years now and every one dialed

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers (dating scans now added it a 92! (maybe))
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2008, 12:25 PM »
What's your frame number Dingo?

Keep the info coming lads  :daumenhoch:
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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers (dating scans now added it a 92! (maybe))
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2008, 01:43 PM »
Good stuff lads. I'll rewrite that guide  :daumenhoch:

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Re: Ripper XL Serial Numbers (dating scans now added it a 92! (maybe))
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2008, 02:20 PM »
Good stuff Bigplinky, thanks for posting old mags  :daumenhoch:

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