Old School or New School??

[Trev]

Ok, question for ya.  This has sort of been discussed on the TA thread but I wanted to add a bit more to it, so thought I'd give it it's own thread.

What makes a bike new school? The technology, or that it been made in this era?

i.e. if a Skyway Street Beat or Haro Master was reissued (not like the Sport with new school geometry) but exactly the same as the old models, would it be classed as new school?

Now to the 25th Anniversary TA.  I hear that they are using original TA tubing remaining from the 80's. Now does this make the frame new school or old school? The welding will be new, but the tubes are 25 years old. If it is classed as new school because the welding is new, then does any old school bike thats be re-welded become new school?

[SaMAlex]

"re issue"

Nothing New School about 1" threaded or even USA BB!

[Flatcap]

Wow.....my head hurts now Trev!

Far too much for my little mind to absorb 

[Trev]

Wow.....my head hurts now Trev!

Far too much for my little mind to absorb 

  my heads like that all the time....

[TwoBobRob]

HAH!!!     I was thinking exactly the same.  

Life used to be so much more simple........

[moley]

My point exactly Trev.

That's just what I said but with less beating around the bush!

[superbikedan]

trev  no mate, new school is new design, new concept, young designers with younger riders, it's all about

tomorrow, what will work with todays riders pushing these tomorrow

if a streat beat or haro master was remade today useing the original material as the 80s

then it's old skool re issue,   trust me i paint a lot of new skool frames and they are nothing like the old skool,

in fact theres nothing similar apart from looking like a bmx frame, 

[Trev]

cool Dan. 

okay, here's another question to throw into the pot... 

What if a new frame was designed, but it was more like an 80's frame than a new school frame. So it isn't reissued as it never existed before. But it was designed and built in 2008.

Sorry for the stupid hyperthetical questions, but I'm bored here... 

[superbikedan]

trev mate,  the 80s frames where unique but the begining of frame design, you cant  still use that design today

unless you welded it at every point, strenghend the metal at every weak point and so on,

would you have a model t chassis under a bmw even 

todays new skool frames are so far advanced, strength, weight and design,  saying that,  this one will pease alex,

the frame i have been most impressed with was alexs holmes,  pure class

[Trev]

i know. it was a hyperthetical question as i was bored. i know it will never be done.

[superbikedan]

i know. it was a hyperthetical question as i was bored. i know it will never be done.

i think a porn mag is needed for you sir

[Flatcap]

My head's still hurting 

[pickle]

sod my head!  i've been reading this thread while eating a lovely Gingerbread man from Gregs.....then crack!  half my back tooth comes away on one of the dam smartie buttons!!!

they should come with a dam health warning!!!   

[Trev]

sod my head!  i've been reading this thread while eating a lovely Gingerbread man from Gregs.....then crack!  half my back tooth comes away on one of the dam smartie buttons!!!

they should come with a dam health warning!!!   

sue them!  they would in america.

[Flatcap]

Don't get me started about Greggs........I went there last week for a sarnie and they now refuse to put butter on it for you. My mate wanted some Soup and a Roll and again they said they weren't allowed to put butter on his roll. But....it gets better.....they can put butter on fruit cake if you want. 

FOOKING STUPID!

Sorry Trev...would Greggs be classed as old school or newschool, or retro new old school, or is it just a fooked up sarnie shop...mmmm, I wonder. 

Daz. 

[Trev]

Well a lot of my mates in Newcastle remember Greggs when it was old school...

[BigassBMX]

i think it would still be old schhol.

cooz i think it is the style of the bike more that the welding and that.

[meticulous]

i supose if you used the exact same steel, used in the exact same jig, welded and painted up the same, who would no any differant, unless the serial number related to a year...mmmm theres a thought!

[bridgecity]

when supercross did the quad project. the 26incher was all old school setup, 1inch, sidepull brakes, etc.  they called that old school.
the 24 incher was 1 1/8, euro BB, V brakes. they called that new school.
even though they were both new production.

the retro TA will be new school design, 1 1/8th, etc.
the old tubing TAs will be old school technology. don't think anyone would call it new school if they were staring at a complete build.