Kashimax Aero Re-Issue?

[Waxintaxin]

But if thats the case then if you want a ferrari , just buy a kit for an escort lol

Thew problem i see with reissue stuff is that by the very nature it makes it accesable , and as such makes it easy to have ,making collecting rare things easy is always a very bad idea for the collector

so 2 years down the line ,when everything is either reproed and reissued ,the hobby will die as the easy availibility of parts makes the hobby pointless ,as its not about collecting its about having
jeez the point of collecting rare things ,is just that there rare

no one collects items that are easy to get ,hence the rerason i dont like reissue stuff at all

[QUADROPHENIA]

repop away i say, they been doing it with mg's for 20 yrs and hasnt had any effect.

[Swivel]

Repop Tuffs for example, these have gone down well as many old school ones are either faded or chipped and these new ones are good, ok no alloy hubbed but that then makes the alloy hubbed ones more collectable. Will the new skyway ta frames affect the current prices for skyway ta's on sale, I don't think they will to be honest. As for smaller parts like seats, I'm happy to see them repopped as it will enable people to have the seat they desire without the large price tag. I understand Tioga/Tange maybe bringing out some old school ranges soon also? 

[Mattdub]

How long before someone puts CBRGIL's repo Aero decals on a re-issue ? , even worse does that then "accidently" leaves it out of the descripton on ebay when deciding to pass it on   

[Longun]

I wish someone would repop Shotgun seats. I never liked Kashimax bitd and never had them on my bikes anyway.

[Mattdub]

I wish someone would repop Shotgun seats. I never liked Kashimax bitd and never had them on my bikes anyway.

Same here , did'nt use Kashi Aero either 

Can see your point about using a cheaper seat on a race bike btw 

[dialledbikes]

Are the only people that re-pop/re-issued stuff annoys or offends those who see BMX as a hobby rather than a sport/lifestyle?

[Waxintaxin]

LOL
Mike i collect old bikes
and ride new ones
so where does that leave me in your eqaution

It annoys and offends me , for a very simple reason what is the point of collecting OLD BMX when it isnt old bmx , its a reissue

fine ride and smash up the new stuff ,and if you want to have a brand new seat ,thats cool but ffs why make it look like an old one

just sad and wrong 

[munners]

Bmx is a hobby to me. I dont ride and wasnt particularly good as a kid either. But i still love them and collecting is what i do. If i did a bike as a rider i dont think i would spend £30 on a seat!

[mark 2]

I was talking to Bananaman the other week about this - maybe it's for another thread but kinda relevant now - you'll always get mixed and strong opinions about re-popping components but never about decals, it's always considered a good thing if someone is making them and that part of collecting is made easy.  Wonder why? I'd gladly stick re-popped decals on a os bike but very probably wouldn't a component. As an example original Hutch decals can go from what we've seen lately £40 -£284 but it'd be crackers to use them. So why are re-popped decals never an issue? Is it just because they can no longer be re-sold and rendered worthless?

[dialledbikes]

LOL
Mike i collect old bikes
and ride new ones
so where does that leave me in your eqaution

It annoys and offends me , for a very simple reason what is the point of collecting OLD BMX when it isnt old bmx , its a reissue

fine ride and smash up the new stuff ,and if you want to have a brand new seat ,thats cool but ffs why make it look like an old one

just sad and wrong 

The re-issued stuff doesn't stop you collecting the old stuff.  And as long as you know your stuff, it's unlikely you'll buy new stuff thinking it's old/original stuff.

I put an NOS Elina Lightning Bolt saddle on my race bike.  I bought it cos I  liked the look of it (and also it's what I had on my old bikes when I was a kid), not because it was old school.  If there'd been a cheaper re-issued version available I would probably have bought that.  I think this highlights that there's a place/valid demand for re-issue stuff.

I imagine there'll be decent demand for those Kashimax seats, not just amongst collectors, but for people to put on their riders too.

[Waxintaxin]

I dont disagree
But to a collector , why would you use a new seat ? even if it looked like an old one ?

if you were a stamp collector would you be all proud of a photocopied penny black
or a record collector showing off his repressed beatles album

I do understand the market for reissue stuff , just not the mentality of collectors using it as an alternative to the real thing

yes use a reissue seat to ride , but to add to an old bike just seems to smack of desperation

[dialledbikes]

Surely it depends on what the person is trying to achieve from the build.

The objective/end result is probably less important for someone who just wants to build a replica of the bike they had or lusted after as a kid, than it is for someone who is obssessive about everything being from the correct era.

I think the danger with the re-issued/retro stuff is that people who are just getting back into BMX will get misled into thinking it's original 80s/90s stuff. Other than that, I don't have a problem with it.

[double chevron]

So why are re-popped decals never an issue? Is it just because they can no longer be re-sold and rendered worthless?

I agree on this, Mark, about decals.


and I guess no one wants to see what they had hard times to find becoming widely available.
As this hobby is turning into investments sometimes, some Kashimax collectors might be afraid of the depreciation of their stuff..

In the meantime, a nice old Kashi will always be better than a neon repopped one  IMHO

[dialledbikes]

So why are re-popped decals never an issue? Is it just because they can no longer be re-sold and rendered worthless?

In the meantime, a nice old Kashi will always be better than a neon repopped one  IMHO

That's the best attitude to take really.  If having an original is important to you, and you know what you have is an original, that's cool 

With so many serious collectors hoarding original parts, re-issued stuff may end up being the only opportunity some less serious collectors get to complete their childhood rebuild, so why begrudge people that?

[double chevron]

Wonder how they are stamped underneath, looks like the manufacturing year still appear with one digit ? could they pass for 80's seats ?

Here's a new one (stamped 2005 ?)

[Longun]

Surely it depends on what the person is trying to achieve from the build.

I think that's the thing here. Obviously someone like Munners gets his enjoyment for hunting down perfect, era-correct parts and building some very pretty bikes, so for him repop stuff is not of interest. For me, I started out wanting to build the GT I rode back in the day and ride it again. However, being completely impatient and seeing how much an exact replica would cost, I've decided I'm happy with an 'approximation'. Somethings are the same (7X rims, A'me grips etc), somethings are bits that I would have liked to have had on it but couldn't afford at the time(flight cranks) and somethings are completely wrong (Primo pedals). In fact it's the wrong frame (1992 Interceptor), but until I track down an 82-83 Pro for less than silly money it's the closest looking one I know of.
Now, to a collector, that's probably an abomination   but to me, it's great - I get the same buzz from riding it and I don't have to stress about damaging rare parts if I crash.

The only thing I would like to see with repro parts is that they should be distinguishable from the originals either by a serial number or one of those 'molding date stamp' things, so that collectors don't get ripped off.  




      

[Zippy]

I want the new ones to put on my race bike so that I don't bugger up a £75 seat.

I think the repro Team Pro had a small detrimental effect on the originals though as the price dipped after the new ones were released.

[MartyC]

 

[pickle]

i'd buy one....but then again i'm a tight fooker!