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ah, confusion!!!! Darren has my log in details as he's too lazy to sign up so that reply about mere mortal was him!!!I've got original GT santa ana bars coming for darrens bike, that's what he used BITD. Flem, Woodys, yep! although Winnie used Stars and MRD's too, just like me! I've got GHP bars to go on my zeronine.Flemdog, we're hopefully all hooking up at Hayes Feb 17th, you coming?