Helmets

[southern andy]

So what full face helmets do people use ??   Moto-X or a proper BMX/Mountain bike one.

Anyone got any decent links to some ?

[Philbert]

one of the most popular is the 661 comp helmet for about £60

check the link
http://www.stif.co.uk/shop/mb_software_products.asp?name=FULL%20FACE%20HELMETS&cat=16

[Flatcap]

Bell Moto 7, always used Bell when it comes to full face, Moto 3 was my first, Moto 4 which I had for donkeys and then I got a 7 last year. Top helmet!

Daz. 

[TwoBobRob]

Moto 7 for me too.  They can be found brand new on Ebay for very good money   

Although I paid a fortune for mine...... 

[Dark Diggler]

http://www.billys.co.uk/english/group.php'maingroup=boards&dept=1550&group=Y&prod=hemacme&PHPSESSID=12evvk8p9j6q7mc013acnf11i6

Accept no substitute, these are shit hot for the money 

[TwoBobRob]

Except that they're polycarbonate....

That means no paint, no stickers and single use only if you value your head.  Now I know all crash helmets are single use items, but polycarb ones have been known to split into pieces on a second impact even though they showed no sign of damage after the first.

Most of us would confess to dropping our lids or taking some fairly light slams and continuing to use the same one, I know I do....  But it's risky with polycarb lids   

[southern andy]

So would it be better to go for a Motocross one or are they on the heavy side for racing BMX ??

[Mattdub]

So would it be better to go for a Motocross one or are they on the heavy side for racing BMX ??

Go MX , your head deserves it 

[Dark Diggler]

Except that they're polycarbonate....

That means no paint, no stickers and single use only if you value your head.  Now I know all crash helmets are single use items, but polycarb ones have been known to split into pieces on a second impact even though they showed no sign of damage after the first.

Most of us would confess to dropping our lids or taking some fairly light slams and continuing to use the same one, I know I do....  But it's risky with polycarb lids   

Are they no good then, cos they pass what needs to be passed 

[MartyC]

Bell used to run an advert along the lines of "If you have a $20 head, buy a $20 helmet", kind of says it all really.

Am a bit of a hypocrite as these days I only wear a Protec pee pot but bitd I used to ride with a Bell Moto3 and will soon be getting an MX lid probably a Moto7 or a Fox Tracer   

[TwoBobRob]

Except that they're polycarbonate....

That means no paint, no stickers and single use only if you value your head.  Now I know all crash helmets are single use items, but polycarb ones have been known to split into pieces on a second impact even though they showed no sign of damage after the first.

Most of us would confess to dropping our lids or taking some fairly light slams and continuing to use the same one, I know I do....  But it's risky with polycarb lids   

Are they no good then, cos they pass what needs to be passed 

No, they're perfectly good lids. They pass all the neccessary safety checks and stuff. Used to be an ACU sticker (bronze, silver, gold), but is now a euro number I believe.

But polycarb is the least favoured material to build lids in.  Hence how you can get a lovely looking, well specced lid for under £75 notes or so.  But it'll generally be heavier than a similar fibreglass, kevlar or composite lid. Those more sophisticated lids can also handle the solvents in paints and sticker glue etc.

My advice would be to check out brand name fibreglass or composite lids as a minimum. They will retail between  £150-£300, but there are bargains to be found in end of line and last years stock etc.

Is weight an issue?  I'd say work on your neck muscles.. 

 

[Dark Diggler]

 

[kickdown]

on the mx front i have used arai which are awsome but you do pay for the extra qulity in them,
ive also had fly which is a copy of an arai took a big hit in it and was very impressed and they can be picked up for £50 for the older models and around 130 for the 08 versions,
used a lazer this year good spec light and look good fair price of around 155 up to 170 this is for the mx7 model, only problem is the peak can break where it attaches to the helmet in the midlle very easy,
this season ive been offerd bell moto 8s they look awsome just havent tried on my head yet!

[TwoBobRob]

Yeah.  Arai VX Pro or a Windham model.  Quality   

Was my first choice but couldn't get hold one on the day, so went Bell instead.

[KGB Matt]

Me and my kids all use MX lids they may be a little heavier but....... if it can withstand an impact @70mph im confidant it can manage 20-30 mph.

Just bought my son a 661 in Kevlar®, carbon fiber and fiberglass.  Here .

 http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx'modelID=7240

Good lids for the cashola.

Matt

[OrgasmDonor]

i got a bell balistic, unused off the bay for £10, fookin awful colours but light n up to the job i reckon

[dialledbikes]

How much do the Bell Moto lids go for these days?  Always wanted one in the 80's but couldn't afford it.

And what's a good online MX shop to buy MX lids?

I've used 661 carbon and Troy Lee carbon BMX/DH lids since I came back.  Troy Lee one is excellent but getting a little smelly and scratched up after 2 seasons.

[Mattdub]

Mike ,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BELL-MOTO-7-MOTOCROSS-HELMET-BLACK-ORANGE-SILVER-XL-MX_W0QQitemZ260202747899QQihZ016QQcategoryZ46161QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTOCROSS-HELMET-BELL-MOTO-7-LARGE-TITANIUM-KTM-WR-YZ_W0QQitemZ280194071904QQihZ018QQcategoryZ46161QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[TwoBobRob]

Mike, you don't find them any cheaper than that..

There are a couple of variants. I think there's a 7K and a 7R and one was dearer than the other, but the shell was the same.

You should really try one on though, make sure you have a Bell head, so to speak.  They don't suit everyone.

[southern andy]

I've just won this one on Ebay for my son for when he starts racing soon.   Any good ??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120210454284

[dialledbikes]

Those Bells on ebay are cheap.  Pretty ugly compared to the original Moto 3/4/5 (or maybe the rose tinted specs are just messing with my head and the older ones just seem better looking from memory).

I know what you mean about having the right head for a Bell, Rob.  I ordered a Bell full face mountain bike lid in 2001 which I thought was my size (Large) but it didn't fit (too small).

[KGB Matt]

I've just won this one on Ebay for my son for when he starts racing soon.   Any good ??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120210454284

size 55-56cm
 
Thats quite a big lid for a kiddie, my son is 5 and his new lid is 53-54cm but is still a little too big for him, my daughter is 8 and wears a 53-54 now.

Remember it need to be tight but not uncomfortable so that his head cannot move inside it.

Matt

[TwoBobRob]

Shouldn't be able to twist it on the head with the chinstrap undone. On the other hand, it shouldn't leave a mark on the forehead either. That needs about a 20 min test really.

Having the cheeks all squished up is ok though, as long as its comfortable.

Fox make a good lid, thats a bargain at £16.  But be sure to have a bloody close look at it though buddy   



Mike,  I alway hankered after a Moto3 as a kid. Such a cool looking lid      They have lost a bit of their identity along the way, but the plain colour ones look better to me.   

[southern andy]

I've just won this one on Ebay for my son for when he starts racing soon.   Any good ??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120210454284

size 55-56cm
 
Thats quite a big lid for a kiddie, my son is 5 and his new lid is 53-54cm but is still a little too big for him, my daughter is 8 and wears a 53-54 now.

Remember it need to be tight but not uncomfortable so that his head cannot move inside it.



Matt

Cheers mate for the info on sizes, my son is 12 and will be 13 in March. We measured his head first before we bought it and this was the size that we reckoned.