Author Topic: Why arent there any Mongoose's or diamondbacks raced in OSS nowadays? (Read 1740 times)

Muffski · « **on:** November 19, 2007, 01:21 PM »

Just Wondered if there was a main reason?

bmxmatt1974 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 19, 2007, 01:24 PM »

i raced my mongoose cali at mk

kdw712 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 19, 2007, 01:25 PM »

most likely cos top tubes are only 18.5" or so

most seem to prefer the late 80's frames were TT's were increasing

mr.magoo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 19, 2007, 01:26 PM »

If i could afford one I would race it ... would certainly be more fun than my Halfords appollo!!!!!!!!!

Muffski · « **Reply #4 on:** November 19, 2007, 01:30 PM »

I only started racing a Month or so ago and noticed that there werent really any of them racing,where as back in the day there were quite a few,thought it might be the frame strength or something like that?? $:-\$

Zippy · « **Reply #5 on:** November 19, 2007, 01:54 PM »

As Kev said it's mainly to do with the top tube length. They're just too short for racing in anger unless you're around the 5ft mark. The reason that a lot of the bikes are now late 80's and early 90's is that the top tube lengths are more manageable.

I have a work collegue that rekons he used to ride a 23" top tube DB when he was 10 and it was also made out of Carbon Fibre.

Muffski · « **Reply #6 on:** November 19, 2007, 02:00 PM »

So its a Tube SIZE issue then

nothing changes

kennyhunter6061 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 19, 2007, 04:12 PM »

I thought there were a few 'Gooses, or Geese

being raced in the last few series'. I'm racing jimwise's old Supergoose with no problems - It probably helps that I'm 5'9" but even my newschool race bike only has a 20.5" toptube. Just whack a long stem on and a layback post

eloopnai · « **Reply #8 on:** November 19, 2007, 04:42 PM »

i will start racing next year and will be riding a 81 mongoose that ive just put together

RATTY · « **Reply #9 on:** November 19, 2007, 04:47 PM »

Steve vinoah has raced a diamond back for over a year now and won the OSWS06 number 1 plate on it. BMX796 races a mongoose cali most of the time. Quadpaul races an 18" top tube GT with a fair amount of wins under his belt... I race a 21" top tube bike, but mines a 1981 bike, not a late one.

Muffski · « **Reply #10 on:** November 19, 2007, 04:55 PM »

Dont think i've met some of the guys you've mentioned Tony yet,so that explains why i havent seen any of the bikes raced

Looking foward to seeing them from behind then sometime soon

RATTY · « **Reply #11 on:** November 19, 2007, 05:06 PM »

you wont miss 796, he will be the one trying to put you over the nearest berm

Muffski · « **Reply #12 on:** November 19, 2007, 05:09 PM »

What again???

Pro-tec · « **Reply #13 on:** November 19, 2007, 05:24 PM »

Quote from: Muffski on November 19, 2007, 04:55 PM

Looking foward to seeing them from behind then sometime soon

Now why can't we have quotes like that on the shout panel?

spillers#1 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 19, 2007, 09:55 PM »

Quote from: RATTY on November 19, 2007, 04:47 PM

Steve vinoah has raced a diamond back for over a year now and won the OSWS06 number 1 plate on it. BMX796 races a mongoose cali most of the time. Quadpaul races an 18" top tube GT with a fair amount of wins under his belt... I race a 21" top tube bike, but mines a 1981 bike, not a late one.

And don't forget jimiwise he races a mongoose as well

there's been some lovely bikes racing in the osss like pro-tecs GHP which is the very same machine he used 22 years ago right down to the grips etc....flaz's kuwi.....some robinsons......ratty and fiola's redline's.....hooga's lovely hutch....some P.K's.....a race inc......a torker......and of course my lovely B-U-R-N-E-R

Muffski · « **Reply #15 on:** November 19, 2007, 10:07 PM »

Yep i think its just a case of not everybody has raced recently..some lovely bikes being run

QuadPaul · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2007, 10:14 PM »

Although not anymore, but SE Mark also ran 2 different DB HL Turbo's last season. But now he's on some old piece of crap

Brandy Truffle · « **Reply #17 on:** November 21, 2007, 09:02 AM »

I can't believe its mostly a tube thing... i was 6' when i finished racing in 1985 (real life job commitments) and my early Aero Pro Burners & GT still fit a beaut... i'm just 5 stone heavier thats all

I snapped and bent a fair few frames 'n' forks' BITD with crazy jumping and awkward lands,so you can imagine,i'm crapping myself at the thought of racing one of the old bikes carrying an extra 5st!

If i had a classic goose or a Kuwa,i'd prob want to do it up - not risk racing it. I know i feel that way with my old GT i'm building right now... so the Burner may get an outing in 08 as i see that as the cheapest and easiest option (and doesnt matter if it gets hammered)

spillers#1 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 21, 2007, 09:12 AM »

We all think that our old bikes we used to ride 20 years ago are ok until you ride/race/jump a new skool bike or cruiser then you realise how awkward your old bike is

trouble is that bitd thats all we new and had so didn't know any better.

dialledbikes · « **Reply #19 on:** November 22, 2007, 09:58 AM »

Tracks are also about 10 times more technical/bigger than the 80s, so the angles of old school bikes don't make them feel that stable on these new school tracks.

The OS bikes are great fun to race against people on other OS bikes, but if people wanna progress they need to ride new school bikes and learn new school skills (manualling/jumping doubles, getting through rythm sections, etc).