Author Topic: What raleigh frame is this? (Read 9951 times)

soyaandy · « **on:** August 09, 2007, 03:13 PM »

Been given a old raleigh burner frame so have posted it on forums to find out what it is and replys are super tuff burner or chromo burner and made in 84. Got some forks off e-bay and they dont fit as the head tube is 4 1/2 inch's long and not 4 inch's like standard frames.
Can anybody tell me why this is and what frame it is?

snav69 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 09, 2007, 03:20 PM »

I can't see any pictures , so it must be an Invisiburner

selfpreservation · « **Reply #2 on:** August 10, 2007, 02:06 AM »

super tuff with the gold stripped off

rob · « **Reply #3 on:** August 10, 2007, 03:34 AM »

Quote from: selfpreservation on August 10, 2007, 02:06 AM

super tuff with the gold stripped off

what he said

theRuler · « **Reply #4 on:** August 10, 2007, 11:30 AM »

if they were full chromo, how come they were so weighty?

Zippy · « **Reply #5 on:** August 10, 2007, 01:44 PM »

MK2's were resonably ok just odd angls on the frame.

It was the MK1's that were carved from solid lead.

beard1973 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2007, 04:52 PM »

Quote from: the®uler on August 10, 2007, 11:30 AM

if they were full chromo, how come they were so weighty?

They weren't ALL Full Cromo.

Lower spec models were Carbo Spec (Hi tensile Steel)
Mid spec models were MT Cromo (Main Tubes Cromo)
High End models were Full Cromo.

MK2 Standard Burner (Steel Rims & Spokes) - Carbo Spec = 14.1kg (31lb)
MK2 Chrome Burner (Steel Rims & Spokes) - MT Cromo = 14.1kg (31lb)
MK2 Ultra Burner (Alloy Rims & Spokes) - FULL CROMO = 12.7kg (28lb)

The Full Cromo Models were 1. Ultra Burner 2.Super Tuff Burner 3. Aero Pro Burner (Tange Frame) 4. Cromo Burner (Koisumi Frame)

theRuler · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2007, 04:59 PM »

nice one beard!
i understand now

hey you know your burners don't you?

beard1973 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 10, 2007, 05:03 PM »

Quote from: the®uler on August 10, 2007, 04:59 PM

nice one beard!
i understand now

hey you know your burners don't you?

Bit sad I know...

I know they get ripped on here (and deep down I understand why...

), but its the nostalgia of the things I love...

theRuler · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2007, 07:19 PM »

hey beard
bit of a tangent, but did the ultra have a different hub on the back (compared to the front) ?

beard1973 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 10, 2007, 07:37 PM »

Suntour High Rise Flange at Front... low rise on the Rear...

theRuler · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2007, 07:39 PM »

Quote from: beard1973 on August 10, 2007, 07:37 PM

Suntour High Rise Flange at Front... low rise on the Rear...

right!
i spotted that on your mk1 ultra

billstup · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2007, 07:46 PM »

What they needed was the serial number stamped in a bit harder

beard1973 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2007, 07:59 PM »

Quote from: the®uler on August 10, 2007, 07:39 PM

Quote from: beard1973 on August 10, 2007, 07:37 PM
Suntour High Rise Flange at Front... low rise on the Rear...

right!
i spotted that on your mk1 ultra

I thought you were gonna say it lost votes because of the ODD hubs....

theRuler · « **Reply #14 on:** August 10, 2007, 09:56 PM »

Quote from: beard1973 on August 10, 2007, 07:59 PM

Quote from: the®uler on August 10, 2007, 07:39 PM
Quote from: beard1973 on August 10, 2007, 07:37 PM
Suntour High Rise Flange at Front... low rise on the Rear...

right!
i spotted that on your mk1 ultra

I thought you were gonna say it lost votes because of the ODD hubs....

tbh it added credability
i knew you would have even got that oddness bang on!

dannyboy · « **Reply #15 on:** August 10, 2007, 10:26 PM »

maybee its the remains of a vector

soyaandy · « **Reply #16 on:** August 11, 2007, 12:43 AM »

Is it worth a rebuild?and how much should i spend before i get carryed away.
where is the best place to buy nos parts other than ebay?

Cheers for all your advice & help.

ps it was my birthday today so thats 20 years since we all had Burners,pk's,diamond back's & choppers if only i had kept them all. Got a mate who works in a skip yard so i'v told him to put all bmx bikes to one side as when he saw my frame the other day he told me he gets them in all the time but nobody wanted them so they went in with the scrap metal,by then i was feeling sick and told him to keep stories like that to himself.Will keep you posted on any good finds.

highrisedrifter · « **Reply #17 on:** August 11, 2007, 12:54 AM »

Quote from: beard1973 on August 10, 2007, 04:52 PM

Quote from: the®uler on August 10, 2007, 11:30 AM
if they were full chromo, how come they were so weighty?

They weren't ALL Full Cromo.

Lower spec models were Carbo Spec (Hi tensile Steel)
Mid spec models were MT Cromo (Main Tubes Cromo)
High End models were Full Cromo.

MK2 Standard Burner (Steel Rims & Spokes) - Carbo Spec = 14.1kg (31lb)
MK2 Chrome Burner (Steel Rims & Spokes) - MT Cromo = 14.1kg (31lb)
MK2 Ultra Burner (Alloy Rims & Spokes) - FULL CROMO = 12.7kg (28lb)

The Full Cromo Models were 1. Ultra Burner 2.Super Tuff Burner 3. Aero Pro Burner (Tange Frame) 4. Cromo Burner (Koisumi Frame)

I had a Mk1 ST Burner that weighed a ton. I guess it was steel. Where did they change the frame composition on MK1 bikes, please mate?

HRD

beard1973 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 11, 2007, 01:02 AM »

ALL the Mk1's (except the MK1 Pro Burner) were Carbo spec 23.

highrisedrifter · « **Reply #19 on:** August 11, 2007, 01:07 AM »

Quote from: beard1973 on August 11, 2007, 01:02 AM

ALL the Mk1's (except the MK1 Pro Burner) were Carbo spec 23.

I never knew that. Thanks for the info, Beard.

HRD

The Burner King · « **Reply #20 on:** August 15, 2007, 01:10 PM »

Quote from: highrisedrifter on August 11, 2007, 01:07 AM

Quote from: beard1973 on August 11, 2007, 01:02 AM
ALL the Mk1's (except the MK1 Pro Burner) were Carbo spec 23.

I never knew that. Thanks for the info, Beard.

HRD

And the cromo burner mark one isn't high tensile steel