Author Topic: eBay advice (Read 2300 times)

Trev · « **on:** July 20, 2007, 01:05 AM »

Hi Guys, just after a bit of a heads up on eBay rules before a potential incident happens.

There was an item on eBay last week which had a reserve price and a BIN price. The seller had stated in his description what the reserve price was. All good so far. My highest bid was a fair bit below what he wanted. Anyway, I got an email from the guy saying he has dropped his reserve price. But it was still higher than my maximum bid. I mailed him back offering to up my bid to his reserve if he would sell it for that price posted. He replied saying no, that was his final price. Fair enough, no hard feelings. Anyway, the auction came to an end with me as the highest bidder, but below his reserve price. So that means I don't win it. Still all good so far. Anyway, correspondence has been passed since the end of the auction and he is adamant he will not accept my offer. The usual "I'm not fussed if it doesn't sell, I'll keep it" response was forthcoming but in a not so polite manner. Anyway, after it didn't sell, he relisted it. It got a couple of bids, so I thought I'll bid on it again, but this time my maximum was not as high as I had before. I am currently the highest bidder, but here's where the catch is. It looks as if he's forgotten to put a reserve price on it. So what's the score now? If come the end of the auction, I am still the highest bidder, am I entitled to it even though he wanted a lot more for it? He may realise he hasn't put a reserve on it before the end and pull the plug on it, but if he doesn't and the auction ends as me the winner, what rights do I have to claim it? I guess he could turn round and say the goods got damaged and are broken and offer me a refund. What do you think?

pickle · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2007, 08:12 AM »

If there is no reserve then at the end of the auction the item is yours mate! if he pulls it then you're stuffed but i don't think you can pull an item within 24 hours of the end??

come on Trev.......what is it?? you can tell us.....we won't bid on it.....honest!

CD17 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2007, 09:32 AM »

As above

But Im always a bit carefull of sellers like that $:-\$

& yes what is it

darkersomeday · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:20 AM »

unless its something you know you wont see again i'd let it run and see what happens,if you dont win it just put it behind you and keep on looking

if you really want it and you win it, pay via paypal and keep all correspondence, ask to pay the extra for recorded/registered delivery , if he get funny about it force the payment through paypal and you've done everything on your side,

this way if it does go to a non-receipt claim and if he leaves you negative feedback e-bay will remove it and pay-pal will reimbuse your payment,
and if he's rude with them or hasnt got his facts straight they'll be rid of him.
its a lot of titting about though mate, if he's aggressive or rude in the first messages i'd leave him well alone

best of luck with it,
pm me if you need any further advice?

brass monkey! · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:27 AM »

Quote from: darkersomeday on July 20, 2007, 10:20 AM

unless its something you know you wont see again i'd let it run and see what happens,if you dont win it just put it behind you and keep on looking

if you really want it and you win it, pay via paypal and keep all correspondence, ask to pay the extra for recorded/registered delivery , if he get funny about it force the payment through paypal and you've done everything on your side,

this way if it does go to a non-receipt claim and if he leaves you negative feedback e-bay will remove it and pay-pal will reimbuse your payment,
and if he's rude with them or hasnt got his facts straight they'll be rid of him.
its a lot of titting about though mate, if he's aggressive or rude in the first messages i'd leave him well alone

best of luck with it,
pm me if you need any further advice?

that about sums it up, if the seller forgot to put a reserve on it it's his lookout, he is legally binded to sell you the item if you win it, albeit for a lower price than he expected.....

I nearly always get stuff send recorded, and in fact send stuff recorded, it only costs about 80 pence extra for piece of mind

good luck with it anyway Trev !!

brass monkey! · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:29 AM »

Quote from: pickle on July 20, 2007, 08:12 AM

come on Trev.......what is it?? you can tell us.....we won't bid on it.....honest!

.......unless it's that pink rubber gimp suit you've been after for ages !

Trev · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2007, 11:36 AM »

I don't think he will realise until the end that he hasn't put a reserve on. if there are already bids on it, can he then stick a reserve on afterwards?

i'm sure if i do win it at the price i've bid, there's no way he will let me have it.

brass monkey! · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2007, 11:40 AM »

Quote from: Trev on July 20, 2007, 11:36 AM

I don't think he will realise until the end that he hasn't put a reserve on. if there are already bids on it, can he then stick a reserve on afterwards?

i'm sure if i do win it at the price i've bid, there's no way he will let me have it.

TREV,

ONCE THERE ARE BIDS ON AN ITEM IT CAN'T BE CHANGED, PRICE-WISE OR (OOPS, CAPS-LOCK ON!!), the original text etc (that's better), only additional info/pics can be added.

If you win, pay on-time, and ask for Special Delivery or Recorded, or possibly collect or get one of us to collect it for you

Is the seller near you ?

If the seller has good feedback i am sure it'll be okay

Matt

Trev · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2007, 11:55 AM »

the guy has a 182 feedback rating with 98.9% positive.

unfortunately the seller is about 250 miles away in the north west.

Trev · « **Reply #9 on:** July 26, 2007, 07:23 PM »

ok, i've only just won this item now for £104. some £50 less than last weeks offer and £76 less than what i know the guy wants for it. what should i do now? if i pay for it now via paypal. it could be a pain trying to get it back if he doesn't ship it. i know he could refund the money and i don't think it costs anything (i wish i knew this before the Ilegal raffle). but alternatively he could just pay me £104 in which case I lose out on paypal fees.

my thinking is to contact the guy now and ask him if he wants payment via paypal or cheque, that way he will know the money is coming and he can then stop me sending the money if he is not going to send me the item. i feel a negative coming on....

jimmyp · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2007, 07:41 PM »

Quote from: pickle on July 20, 2007, 08:12 AM

come on Trev.......what is it?? you can tell us.....we won't bid on it.....honest!

Its that big black rubber dildo he's been after for a while

theRuler · « **Reply #11 on:** July 26, 2007, 07:42 PM »

Quote from: jimmyp on July 26, 2007, 07:41 PM

Quote from: pickle on July 20, 2007, 08:12 AM

come on Trev.......what is it?? you can tell us.....we won't bid on it.....honest!

Its that big black rubber dildo he's been after for a while

yeh but it's used.

Trev · « **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2007, 12:12 AM »

MeddlE · « **Reply #13 on:** July 27, 2007, 01:07 AM »

If you get a payment refunded on PayPal it costs you nothing, there are no fees charged on a refund.

Trev · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2007, 01:10 AM »

Quote from: MeddlE on July 27, 2007, 01:07 AM

If you get a payment refunded on PayPal it costs you nothing, there are no fees charged on a refund.

only if the refunder uses the refund option. i've had people who have refunded money to me before, but have sent it as a new payment, therefore been subject to paypal fees.

MeddlE · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2007, 09:43 AM »

Quote from: Trev on July 27, 2007, 01:10 AM

Quote from: MeddlE on July 27, 2007, 01:07 AM
If you get a payment refunded on PayPal it costs you nothing, there are no fees charged on a refund.

only if the refunder uses the refund option. i've had people who have refunded money to me before, but have sent it as a new payment, therefore been subject to paypal fees.

Exactly what I said, if they refund you there are no charges. Them sending you a payment is not really a refund.

jimwise68 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2007, 09:52 AM »

Trev, sod all the grief, WHAT IS IT!!!

Trev · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2007, 11:59 AM »

it's a flatland bike.... nowt special... it's all jim quimriders fault...

spinmaster · « **Reply #18 on:** July 27, 2007, 04:23 PM »

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you got it then.

you know it.

you can teach me some tricks now. lol

Trev · « **Reply #19 on:** July 27, 2007, 05:28 PM »

Quote from: quimrider on July 27, 2007, 04:23 PM

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you got it then. you know it.

you can teach me some tricks now. lol

well that's only if the bloke actually sends me it. that was the one you told me about though. got it second time round. if he does send me it, then i've got it nearly £150 cheaper than what he originally wanted for it...

spinmaster · « **Reply #20 on:** July 27, 2007, 05:32 PM »

the fly micromachine one? bargain if he does send it to you.

Trev · « **Reply #21 on:** July 27, 2007, 05:36 PM »

Quote from: quimrider on July 27, 2007, 05:32 PM

the fly micromachine one? bargain if he does send it to you.

yeah, that's the one. yeah it will be a bargain if he sends it, but somehow i think i'm gonna get stitched on this.

spinmaster · « **Reply #22 on:** July 27, 2007, 05:38 PM »

what was the original BIN, was it £250?

Trev · « **Reply #23 on:** July 27, 2007, 05:40 PM »

Quote from: quimrider on July 27, 2007, 05:38 PM

what was the original BIN, was it £250?

yep...

Trev · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2007, 01:30 AM »

i've just come back from the pub and have received a response from the seller. i had mailed him asking him if he prefered paypal or a cheque. i would have always paid by paypal but thought it would be a good way to contact the seller and make him aware of the price i had won his bike at. he has replied and said he would prefer paypal. although strange that his reply had come about six hours after i had actually paid him... so i guess he must have realised his mistake and resigned to the fact that my offer was gonna be the best he got. maybe a lesson learnt for him too. had he accepted my original offer he would have been about £50 better off, plus the relisting eBay fees he's had to pay.

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