goose vs sky beat

[christian]

ok ive bin looking around and alot of people have a great deal to say about the beat,was it ever as good or better even than the goose?

[theRuler]

which goose?

[matt]

i read the title and thought someone wanted to fight me for a min   

[christian]

which goose?

the best goose ....wich i dont have a clue is?

[theRuler]

pro class?

kinda has the edge on a street beat, but for racing
if it's freestyle you are after, then the streetbeat is a better ride

[zed4130]

two different bikes 

[jimmyp]

pro class?

kinda has the edge on a street beat, but for racing
if it's freestyle you are after, then the streetbeat is a better ride

Was the Pro Class the best old school racing frame?? If not wadda you reckon was

[theRuler]

was the pro class the best old school racing frame?

i really have not got a clue.

i think it was up there with the best though.
maybe with a GT, or a GHP or JMC or something like that.

[Trev]

as far as i'm concerned, the street beat was the best old school freestyle bike.  but i am biased.
i think the haro master / sport / fst were also up there along with the gt performer and hutch trickstar.
i don't know too much about racing, but as for freestyle, i don't believe any mongoose came close to those mentioned above.

[theRuler]

i think the streetbeat too was one of the best of the 80's freestyle framesets
along with the trickstat

pity skyway dropped bmx like a hot shit as soon as the money slowed down

[Trev]

yeah i am disappointed that skyway pulled out when they did. although i have to admit, i stopped bmx before skyway did. they had so many of the top riders in the world riding for them, so you would have thought they might have held in there a bit longer.
but then again, they have got to act as a business and cannot be sentimental about it. it would have been hard, if not impossible for them to keep afloat during the dark ages of the 90's.

[jimmyp]

pity skyway dropped bmx like a hot shit as soon as the money slowed down

Thing is they all did, which i never understood . In the early 80s they where making shit loads of money then when sales dipped they never tried to do anything to stop it they just pulled the plug on everything. Its as if all the BMX Companys where only happy making loads of money and making some money wasn't good enough. If they had stuck with it and brought out fresh new products they could have pulled it round but they never had the fight, still don't understand even today

[theRuler]

not all of them
gt, haro, mongoose, dyno, redline etc etc
they all carried on regardless

[jimmyp]

not all of them
gt, haro, mongoose, dyno, redline etc etc
they all carried on regardless

Yeah but even Mongoose where still using the same frames in 1989 thet they brought out in 1983. There was nothing new and fresh to keep you interested apart from different colour frames. You never felt like you where buying somthing new just the same bike but a different colour. The same goes for most of the companys, its like they ran out of ideas 

[theRuler]

well at least they kept going
the race frames didn't change much though
but that's because they got it bang on to start with

[Trev]

you have to also remember that everyone running bmx companies bitd were adults running companies that catered for kids.  they didn't really have the love for the sport like we did.  they were just there for the money.  nowadays you have people running companies who use to actually ride bitd.  these people are more likely to stick by the sport.  hence why hoffman bikes was one of the biggest and most successful bmx companies of the 90's.

gt, haro, redline & mongoose may well have carried on, but i don't believe they are up there with the elite as they were in the 80's.

[theRuler]

i think haro have done ok!
and gt/mongoose have always had top riders on their roster

[Trev]

i have to admit, i don't know too much about what happened between about 1992 and 2006, so please ignore my ignorance.  thinking about it now, i am not in a position to comment about it, so please ignore my previous comments.

all i know is that a haro now is not as much cop as a proper, fly, fit, FBM, mutiny, metal, wtp etc.

[theRuler]

haro pioneered stuff like left side drive (obviously copying our alex )
and they had mirra and nyquist on the team for years helping design stuff

a haro is probably not as a cool a brand as fly fit etc but i am pretty sure they make some decent shizznit!!

your mate si tabron rides (or used to) a mongoose
the RAF is his sig model. or was at least!

and that dude is number 1!!!

[Trev]

i am guessing that the 80's companies may have had more money to temp the top riders during the dark 90's.  the mongoose name always seemed big, but to me was never elitist during my career of 85-92.  i would love the original companies to be the biggest now as they deserve to be able to cash in on the latest boom.

companies like haro, skyway, gt, hutch, redline, kuwahara, raleigh (yeah i know), cw, se, even vincent and dp.

[theRuler]

the brit companies making the high qual stuff seemed to all but disappear in the 90's
although curtis made some frames in 1996

[pickle]

thought curtis still made them to order?