Author Topic: standard survivor (Read 4977 times)

darkersomeday · « **on:** July 09, 2007, 04:06 PM »

i spotted this on e-bay listed as,

"vintage profile cranks with unknown frame,forks, bars etc,"

its actually a "21tt standard 125bicyclemotocross!

with early standard bash forks, standard stem and early standard strip bars!

with the profile cranks!

trouble is the seatpost and cranks are seized in there like a bastard!
i'm going to soak&cherry them to get them out,

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:09 PM »

is that the twinkle of chrome i see?

SaMAlex · « **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:09 PM »

Now thats a cracking find

darkersomeday · « **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:11 PM »

tis indeed chrome phil!
i think it may have been one of the translucent jobbies,

i've got my work cut out with this one i think!
i want to get it looking like the challenger,

£60

dialledbikes · « **Reply #4 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:14 PM »

I believe that model was just called Bicycle Moto Cross. They became 125R when Standard started using the air hardened tubing.

A 97 Bicycle Moto Cross replaced my 96 Holmes then I got a 2001 125R (not as good as the Bicycle Moto Cross in my opinion).

That there is one of the best 90s race bikes.

harris · « **Reply #5 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:20 PM »

tis a sweety good win bro
that looks like a great project

darkersomeday · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:28 PM »

Quote from: dialledbikes on July 09, 2007, 04:14 PM

I believe that model was just called Bicycle Moto Cross. They became 125R when Standard started using the air hardened tubing.

A 97 Bicycle Moto Cross replaced my 96 Holmes then I got a 2001 125R (not as good as the Bicycle Moto Cross in my opinion).

That there is one of the best 90s race bikes.

i think you could be right there mike,
the frame looks early enough to be a "bicyclemotocross"

they did make a "125 bicyclemotocross" frame though, with either u-brake lugs or canti mounts,
if you look at the toptube sticker in the photo you can see theres no "R" behind it,

i had intended to use these on the "125r" frame also in the pic but i seemed a shame so i picked up a set of "125r" stickers for it last week,

its not 100% accurate but i'm going to use the "125bicyclemotocross" set on this new arrival, would it be wrong to?

i'm planning to do the whole thing in fresh black powdercoat, would it be better to have it re-chromed instead?

i'm sure i got the 125r off you mike

Dingobmxer · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:37 PM »

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
another top build in the making DSD

DINGO

darkersomeday · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:44 PM »

i've got 5 on the go at once for some reason!

heres how the 125r will look, clear gloss powder, i'm trying to colour match the forks and bars with the army green on the stickers

standard army!

harris · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:47 PM »

mmm that will look the mutts
joe will the rear end take a brake plate for a bolt on 990 by any chance.

dialledbikes · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:51 PM »

Quote from: darkersomeday on July 09, 2007, 04:28 PM

i'm sure i got the 125r off you mike

I sold my original Bicycle Moto Cross to a Geordie/Middlesboro dude who worked at Cycle Surgery and Yellow Jersey in London.
I sold my candy apple red 125R to someone from Sheffield. Is that you (Joe)?

I have loads of Standard stickers somewhere (I may even have an old style head tube sticker (S in an oval rather than a circle) and curvier downtube stickers (before Standard went all military)). The trouble is, where the fk are they?!

And if that frame you have was originally chrome, then it will almost certainly be a Bicycle Moto Cross as I don't ever recall Standard making the 125R in chrome (in fact I'm fairly positive they didn't).

darkersomeday · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:14 PM »

Quote from: dialledbikes on July 09, 2007, 04:51 PM

Quote from: darkersomeday on July 09, 2007, 04:28 PM
i'm sure i got the 125r off you mike

I sold my original Bicycle Moto Cross to a Geordie/Middlesboro dude who worked at Cycle Surgery and Yellow Jersey in London.
I sold my candy apple red 125R to someone from Sheffield. Is that you (Joe)?

I have loads of Standard stickers somewhere (I may even have an old style head tube sticker (S in an oval rather than a circle) and curvier downtube stickers (before Standard went all military)). The trouble is, where the fk are they?!

And if that frame you have was originally chrome, then it will almost certainly be a Bicycle Moto Cross as I don't ever recall Standard making the 125R in chrome (in fact I'm fairly positive they didn't).

hi mike i'm joe

the 125r is a pearl mate

thanks for sorting it out for me,
a bit of a "grail" frame for me as i've always wanted one,
i had a 125motocross years ago phil "hudu" charnley still has it i think!, gorgeous frame equal to any ns ride

it might try and prise it back off him one day!

youre spot on about the chrome 125r

i've never seen or heard of one,

i'll happily buy all the standard stickers you have dude! i've become a bit of a sticker library!
i'm always happy to help folk out with them to finish off a build and i'm scanning them before hand so other folk can get proper re-pops 10 years down the line or whatever,

let me know what you think,

dialledbikes · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:28 PM »

If I come across the stickers, I will let you know.

The ones that came on my original motocross are very different to all the later Standard ones, so you will definitely want to scan those.

I've also got a head tube sticker with a snake/cobra on it. Have you seen that one?

darkersomeday · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:28 PM »

Quote from: harris on July 09, 2007, 04:47 PM

mmm that will look the mutts
joe will the rear end take a brake plate for a bolt on 990 by any chance.

i would prefer to use a chainstay mounted u-brake dan but the brace is way too small,

would i be taking thee piss if i put canti brakes on it?

or should i stick with v-brakes?

harris · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:32 PM »

i was going to look out for one ,and if i could lob the lugs of and afix a 990 as the v is to harsh and instant.
try them both see what works and looks better.

dialledbikes · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:38 PM »

Standard Bicycle Moto Cross frames were pretty much the beginning of new school, so embrace that by keeping the V-mounts on there and running v-brakes/cantilever braks, rather than cutting them off and retro/down grading to a u-brake or caliper.

harris · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:40 PM »

i just got told of

Dingobmxer · « **Reply #17 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:43 PM »

If you struggle with the harshness of V-brakes then run an XTR or Avid speed dial lever which have an adjustment screw on them that you can "dial the feel" of the brakes in by changing the leverage ratio

DINGO

darkersomeday · « **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:48 PM »

Quote from: dialledbikes on July 09, 2007, 05:28 PM

If I come across the stickers, I will let you know.

The ones that came on my original motocross are very different to all the later Standard ones, so you will definitely want to scan those.

I've also got a head tube sticker with a snake/cobra on it. Have you seen that one?

that would be spot on dude

it might sound a bit daft but the whole scanning thing is to save folk lots of effort in the future!
seeing the lengths other members have gone to to replicate old stickers is crazy, colour matching,font,size,etc,etc, the big daddy sets anyone

i wont take the piss and do the current/recent ones though

i'm not otu to piss rick off like

i know the cobra one you mean, i'd have that like a shot dude!

i've got three of the later "phoenix" stickers on there way from the usa but i'm shocked at how much i paid for them!
i'll scan these too if anyone needs them in the future,

heres the ones i planned to use on the bicyclemotocross survivor,

should i not use them and find a more suitable dated frame?

dialledbikes · « **Reply #19 on:** July 09, 2007, 07:41 PM »

Joe, if you're trying to get the frames looking era correct, then I wouldn't waste the stickers you have. Wait until you get the right ones.

I'll let you know when I come across my Standard stickers.

Lazarou · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09, 2007, 07:46 PM »

What a find! You lucky lucky man!

SOMEONE SELL ME SOME STANDARD STICKERS!!!!

Lazarou · « **Reply #21 on:** July 09, 2007, 07:52 PM »

what's the serial number Joe out of interest?

harris · « **Reply #22 on:** July 09, 2007, 08:43 PM »

joe i just found this padset if you want them.

easyroller · « **Reply #23 on:** July 10, 2007, 10:43 AM »

Nice find !! thats one of the best feelings! gettin a hold of a diamond in the rough .

darkersomeday · « **Reply #24 on:** July 10, 2007, 11:50 AM »

Quote from: Lazarou on July 09, 2007, 07:52 PM

what's the serial number Joe out of interest?

e95043

i'm seriously thinking about taking mikes advice and passing the decals set over,
maybe a re-chrome is on the cards and a chat to superbikedan about some clear red translucent powdercoat,
i've found a true 125bicyclemotocross that i'm going to try for so wish me luck

thanks for the offer of the pads dan,youre a star mate

, can i work out the colour and let you know if i can use them? i have the red and yellow set to trade so...

cheers roller! i know what you mean dude, felt a bit bad not contacting the seller to let him know what it actually was that he was selling but hey!
its good that it got recognized and rescued (thanks to the cats that confirmed what it was for me, you know who you are

)
and everybody for the help and advice too

the cranks are out!
just the post to go now

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