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GREMLIN

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #250 on: August 12, 2007, 01:07 PM »
It's black with skinwalls for me too lads  :)
I've plenty of rainbow label Comp III's sat around here on various builds. Which i can use on the bike.
My choice at the moment is over Comp III or Knarler knobbie. I think i'm def going to go with fattie and thinnie. It's just which make.  :-\
The Knarlers were standard issue on the Carrera. But i've always loved the Comp III's  ;).
I've a rainbow label on the front at the mo (2.125), and a cheapo Wilko's job on the rear, just so it's sat on rubber while i decide.
I'll fire some pics up later in the week with what i decide on wrapped around the rims  >:D   G.  ;)
« Last Edit: August 12, 2007, 03:26 PM by Gremlin »

gt0733

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #251 on: August 12, 2007, 11:33 PM »
GT...  your bike looks great!!  real oldschool with the high seat :daumenhoch:


that's not high, Ron.....it's normal  :smitten:

Tricky

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #252 on: August 14, 2007, 10:14 PM »


Since there are a few PLII's appearing, thought i would dig mine out of the loft.  I have owned this one for 24 yrs since new.  I just wish I had rescued it from the loft a few years earlier, as unfortunately the chrome is too far gone.  Even beyond the polishing skills of Grem this one! :LolLolLolLol:  Which is a real shame as the decals are the originals.
Cant decide what to do with it...at a guess i would say its going to be a powder coat in either white or candy red.  Any suggestions??  Also deciding how to build it.. Whether to build it as it was or go for a new look with NOS parts.

gt0733

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #253 on: August 14, 2007, 11:25 PM »


Since there are a few PLII's appearing, thought i would dig mine out of the loft.  I have owned this one for 24 yrs since new.  I just wish I had rescued it from the loft a few years earlier, as unfortunately the chrome is too far gone.  Even beyond the polishing skills of Grem this one! :LolLolLolLol:  Which is a real shame as the decals are the originals.
Cant decide what to do with it...at a guess i would say its going to be a powder coat in either white or candy red.  Any suggestions??  Also deciding how to build it.. Whether to build it as it was or go for a new look with NOS parts.


please, please, please do not paint it. all it needs is a bath in some oxalic acid (the stickers should be fine) and a bit of autosol rub down. buy some nice used components and hey presto instant survivor that will be way neater than a carpet warrior with hundred dollar bills of NOS thrown at it.
does your serial number start with RB?

Tricky

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #254 on: August 14, 2007, 11:34 PM »
Yes..

RB 01693

gt0733

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #255 on: August 15, 2007, 02:41 AM »
ok......late '82 with the BB brace  :daumenhoch:

kowalski

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #256 on: August 15, 2007, 08:17 AM »
wish i had one of those in my loft tricky :daumenhoch:
wish i had a loft :D im with gt on this one good bath and used parts, although tbh i would rather a white powder job the only thing that would stop me doing it is those lovely stickers, either way its a top bike :daumenhoch:

GREMLIN

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #257 on: August 15, 2007, 11:42 AM »
Mmmmm, that's nice Tricky  :)
I'd say an acid bath, and then polish her up to see how it looks.  :coolsmiley:
I wish my decals were in that condition when i made my choice  :smitten:
Another resto, and build for us to follow... Sweet  ;)  G.

Tricky

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #258 on: August 15, 2007, 12:14 PM »


I think you 'll all agree on closer inspection that this is beyond a polish, the chrome is blistering on the forks.  Despite being kept in a dry loft it seems to have formed a rough salty textured coat, a bit like oxidation.  Its the only one of my frames that seemed to suffer this, which seems kind of strange.  Mind it is the oldest but only by a couple of years.
Regarding the stickers, no one seems to make a repo set exactly the same as these.  The main frame decal is all one, joined by clear sticker over the top of the tube. Also the REDLINE logo seems larger on these originals.

Tricky

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #259 on: August 15, 2007, 12:16 PM »

Same on the drop outs with this bloody "white coat" oxidation going on

Tricky

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #260 on: August 15, 2007, 12:17 PM »


And the same on the forks......... :'(

GREMLIN

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #261 on: August 15, 2007, 12:39 PM »
That's a shame ! 
Whichever way you look at re-finishing her now... the decals are history  :(
It'll have to be sent to have the chrome removed if you decide to powder it. So i suppose you could consider a re-chrome as it'll be at the shop anyhow. They do look sweet in white powder tho.

Your rear drops are set slightly different to mine... They look brazed too? Are they? If so i think that points to it being a Carrera frame  :)   Grem'.  ;)

Tricky

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #262 on: August 15, 2007, 01:03 PM »
Your rear drops are set slightly different to mine... They look brazed too? Are they? If so i think that points to it being a Carrera frame  :)   Grem'.  ;)
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Not sure Grem...
From the frame no. RB I have been told its an 1982 frame, I got it either late '82 or early '83.  The stickers are the originals and frame was one of the Japanese produced ones.  Which I dont know is good or bad :D


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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #263 on: August 15, 2007, 01:29 PM »
As you say Grem the dropouts could be brazed .

Tricky , cool loft keeper  ;) . Check out Ron Burgundy's brazed drop outs on his PL ( could be in this thread or here somewhere/museum ? ) .   

Tricky

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #264 on: August 15, 2007, 02:31 PM »
As you say Grem the dropouts could be brazed .

Tricky , cool loft keeper  ;) . Check out Ron Burgundy's brazed drop outs on his PL ( could be in this thread or here somewhere/museum ? ) .  
Cool lofft keeper!! Think the loft has a leak..........The drop outs are brazed

GREMLIN

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #265 on: August 15, 2007, 02:48 PM »
Being brazed means the frame set was manafactured in Japan. Usually for the Carrera kit.
All good stuff  :daumenhoch:  G.  ;)

Tricky

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #266 on: August 15, 2007, 03:02 PM »
Being brazed means the frame set was manafactured in Japan. Usually for the Carrera kit.
All good stuff  :daumenhoch:  G.  ;)

Also the Made in Japan sticker on the seat post is an indication too Grem! :)

GREMLIN

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #267 on: August 15, 2007, 03:38 PM »
Also the Made in Japan sticker on the seat post is an indication too Grem! :)
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I suppose it could be a bit of a give away.  :LolLolLolLol:  G.  :coolsmiley:

gt0733

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #268 on: August 16, 2007, 09:32 AM »
i know this may be a rough shot, buuuuuuuuuut....why not try and get the stickers copied before they are destroyed in the replating, painting. (i'd still try and clean it up as a survivor, but that's me  ;) )
then get a few sets made up, sell a set to me for cost  :angel: and the rest at a huge profit as they are a very desirable sticker set with the correct 3 colours.....................and of course we will all be very quiet about it in case you know who finds out  >:D

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #269 on: August 16, 2007, 06:05 PM »
Being brazed means the frame set was manafactured in Japan. Usually for the Carrera kit.
All good stuff  :daumenhoch:  G.  ;)


Why do you say usually for the Carrera kit?  ???
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GREMLIN

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #270 on: August 16, 2007, 06:15 PM »
Being brazed means the frame set was manafactured in Japan. Usually for the Carrera kit.
All good stuff  :daumenhoch:  G.  ;)


Why do you say usually for the Carrera kit?  ???

Bmx plus magazine from Oct '82 says this in it's test write up.
"Not all Pro line frames are brazed-only the ones that come from Japan in the PL-20 Carrera kits".   G  :)

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #271 on: August 16, 2007, 06:18 PM »
Gotcha... thought you had a bit of Redline gossip then ;)
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Tricky

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #272 on: August 16, 2007, 06:22 PM »
So did Carrera's come only as complete builds, or could you buy the frame and forks alone? :D

GREMLIN

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #273 on: August 16, 2007, 06:28 PM »
Carrera was the name given to the complete bike.  ;)  G.

Tricky

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Re: Redline Proline II
« Reply #274 on: August 16, 2007, 06:38 PM »
Its confusing this..
Mine has brazed dropouts and is made in Japan, suggesting its a Carrera....however it came brand new as frame and forks badged as a Proline II...who knows


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