frame and fork id please

[harris]

not sure it could be pos but need to no if pos.as i dont recognise what it is.
sErial number  AC D4B 00183

[ronnie360]

where did you dig that up from dan 

[greentoad]

Dan

Got a picture of the rear dropouts?

J.

[harris]

[SaMAlex]

If it was a dirt bike the frame number (on the rear dropout) would be
SMDBXXXX

and if it was a Holmes it would be
SMXLXXXX

with the Xs being numbers.

Also, the dropouts are the wrong shape and it looks like there is a fold in the chainstay for chainring clearance, with I dont think S&Ms ever had.

Hope that helps.

[Paulo]

If it was a dirt bike the frame number (on the rear dropout) would be
SMDBXXXX

and if it was a Holmes it would be
SMXLXXXX

with the Xs being numbers.

Also, the dropouts are the wrong shape and it looks like there is a fold in the chainstay for chainring clearance, with I dont think S&Ms ever had.

Hope that helps.

Jezzz S&M A.   You know your stuff 

[harris]

cheers alex it is now a mooshed bike   

[bof]

machined head tube? if so i doubt its A POS. could be a patterson. dont be fooled by the freestyle bits. 

[harris]

oops to late

[SaMAlex]

Sorry, I messed up. I was a bit quick on typing, slow in thinking. It should be:

Dirtbike:
SMDXXXX

Holmes it would be
HXLXXXX

with the Xs being numbers.

Im not sure what the numbers mean, I think they were just in order. The lower the number, the earlier the frame.

[harris]

bottom of forks as also unknown
and bars a tad  rusty  28"  6 1/2" rise