Author Topic: GT preformer question (Read 2781 times)

Faze 3 · « **on:** March 14, 2007, 09:03 AM »

Hi fella's

Hopefully there are plenty of GT performer experts on the forum today. Cos I have a chance to buy what I think is an 83 / 84 pro performer.

It has all the early signs of being an early frame, three holes and cut rear drop outs, rear seat tube stays are low & it has no support bar behind the crank case.

What I'm not sure about is the small stamped GT plate behind the seat post, its stamped GT 4130, but the plate looks welded on? Is this right? I can't remember the serial no, any ideas what they would be for this year, so I can check.

Thanks
Mark

Waxintaxin · « **Reply #1 on:** March 14, 2007, 09:11 AM »

PICS?

Faze 3 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 14, 2007, 09:45 AM »

I don't have any pic's I'm afraid.

Stodgy · « **Reply #3 on:** March 14, 2007, 09:55 AM »

In a nutshell:

They came out in Feb 84 with 3 holes in the drop outs and the seat stays meet the top tube in the middle (i.e. they are not level with the top). Forks have 4 holes in the drop-outs.

The Feb 84 was unstamped, stamping started in March/April 84 (GT 4130)...the serial number is on the outside of the rear drop out and will be something like (684XXXX - which would be June 84).

Level seat stays and came in late 84/early 85, with 4 holes and a cable guide on the forks.

Hope this helps!

Stodgy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 14, 2007, 09:58 AM »

This is my June 84:

Faze 3 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 14, 2007, 10:12 AM »

The frame is as you described, the serial number, level seat tubes etc. Its just that I already have an 85/86 performer (4 holes on rear drop outs) & the GT stamp on the end of the top tube is not visibly welded on! The frame I'm looking at looks from the pics you've posted exactly the same. Expect your's looks nifty in white & the one I'm looking at has been hand painted bright pink!!

The guy selling it has no idea what it is, just that its a GT. Although I'm no expert, I was thinking that the earlier frames are considerably rarer than the (4 hole drop outs) 86 frames, is that right.

He also tells me that the frame was chrome, before his lad sprayed it!

Sorry but I have to say it again, that bike is soooooooooo sweet

Stodgy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 14, 2007, 10:45 AM »

Yep, the 84's are a fair bit rarer than the 85's (unless you go round to Pete's house)

So, grab it now! The main giveaway is the position of the seat tubes in relation to the top tube (i.e. NOT level) and the three holes.

Here's a closer pic of the rear plate, it is welded on and the 'T' has an extra stroke to the right, halfway down:

Faze 3 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 14, 2007, 11:15 AM »

Thanks for your help mate. That's what I wanted to know. Think I may be making a purchase this evening!!

Are those pics of the rusty old bike, the very same one after a make over? If so I looking forward to getting it restored to its former glory, the removal of pink paint a priority.

Funny about the small tick on the GT stamp, thats on my 86 performer as well.

Moose · « **Reply #8 on:** March 14, 2007, 12:45 PM »

Go buy it, '84 or not it deserves to be rescued........... and post pics of it as it is now - it'd be cool to see what it's like

There aren't a huge amount of genuine '84's out there and they're definately the one to get, but they're not what I'd call 'rare'.

The early unstamped one's are quite rare

Faze 3 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 14, 2007, 04:23 PM »

Yeah, I'm off to make an offer this evening, Ill post some pics so you can see how bright the paint work is!!

I really wanted an earlier performer, with the rear stay's lower than the top tube, Maybe I've become a little obsessive here!

I'm going to offer £80, for frame & fork, which I think is a little cheeky but heh, he can only say no.

Moose · « **Reply #10 on:** March 14, 2007, 04:29 PM »

Don't forget to check out the serial number on the dropout - if it's not there and it's under the bottom bracket offer less

Faze 3 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 14, 2007, 04:57 PM »

Why is it worth less if serial is under bottom bracket?

Much less? $:-\$

Moose · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2007, 05:04 PM »

If the serial number is under the bottom bracket it's not an '84 and made in Tiawan

Faze 3 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2007, 05:15 PM »

Ok mate, thanks for the advice. Very handy to know when you're off to do some haggling!!

I'll really sound like I know me onions tonight won't I, serial numbers, made in taiwan it all helps!

If it turns out to be a taiwan frame, should I give it a miss then, are they a bit duff!?

Moose · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2007, 06:11 PM »

Don't give it a miss - just don't pay big for it

rarman1 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 14, 2007, 08:51 PM »

dont forget the pics

gt performers

i've got 4 now

QUADROPHENIA · « **Reply #16 on:** March 14, 2007, 09:46 PM »

Quote from: rarman1 on March 14, 2007, 08:51 PM

dont forget the pics

gt performers

i've got 4 now

bloody hell, any picks?

SaMAlex · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2007, 11:45 PM »

Quote from: QUADROPHENIA on March 14, 2007, 09:46 PM

Quote from: rarman1 on March 14, 2007, 08:51 PM

dont forget the pics

gt performers

i've got 4 now

bloody hell, any picks?

Ohhh, someone else with more than one performer!!!! Pete is starting to feel insecure!

rarman1 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 15, 2007, 12:49 AM »

there you go

QUADROPHENIA · « **Reply #19 on:** March 15, 2007, 07:17 AM »

sweet i do like a performer

SaMAlex · « **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2007, 08:47 AM »

How cool is that? Its got spray painted RATT decals!!! Lovin that!

I have been spending too much time with Quadrophenia cos I think I can tell the age of those frames!! Ahhhh

Faze 3 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2007, 10:10 AM »

I'm getting concerned myself, I've 3 GT performers in the garage now!! (Yes I bought it last night) paid Â£65 in the end $:-\$ .
It did come with forks but these are not performer, look like pro series with GT stamp (maybe 86).

I'm really not sure what year it was made, the serial number is under the BB. maybe you guy's might be able to tell me.

Pics below as promised.

I've stripped some of the very thick hand painted pink paint off & the primer & so far the chrome underneath looks good.

You guy's have given me loads of useful advice, thanks very much. All my mates think I'm turning into a GT BMX nerd!!!

Come on fella's tell me the truth, I've got it haven't I

QUADROPHENIA · « **Reply #22 on:** March 15, 2007, 10:35 AM »

o yes you got it, but you couldn,t get a better bmx, so whats the number

Stodgy · « **Reply #23 on:** March 15, 2007, 10:41 AM »

Ooo a weird one that...by the position of the seat tubes and the serial number on the BB Looks like an 85...but the drop outs would say 84.

Either way, fecking good find.

Nice one.

Stodgy · « **Reply #24 on:** March 15, 2007, 10:42 AM »

Quote from: Moose on March 14, 2007, 12:45 PM

The early unstamped one's are quite rare

You not been to Pete's house then?!

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