Author Topic: s&m pics needed (Read 5140 times)

harris · « **on:** March 12, 2007, 07:59 PM »

i need pics if possible on what different models to look out for
90s only please mr leech you are the man with the mag scans.

Stodgy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2007, 08:14 PM »

Hold on to ya hat Dan - the S&MAlex scan machine will be firing up!!!

harris · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2007, 08:16 PM »

i feel i need one .you no the score ,but must get the right one as so many where about.

darkersomeday · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2007, 08:27 PM »

i've got an unfinished rare challenger for sale!

the holmes would be my first choice though,

just dont be tempted with a "next gen" model! i had one for three years that nearly broke my back it was so heavy, like 8.9lbs heavy!

pretty though, looking back, it must have been one of the first raw jobs in the uk,

i'd pay good money for another set of the holmes stickers with the chickens on, want to sell me a couple of yours alex?!!

harris · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2007, 08:30 PM »

ye i dont want the wrong one.
do it right the first time,when its something i no nothing about.
thats why i want pointers ,pics, good and bad points ,then i can decide my choice.

zed4130 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2007, 08:32 PM »

i know you all have seen this

its all abit gay

darkersomeday · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2007, 08:37 PM »

my old classic dirtbike from around 1996, fairly short toptube by todays standards,

my favourite ride of all time, s&m RV race version "21 toptube, 74.5 headtube angle, "14/"15 rear triangle, classic geometry, 5.3lbs frame

SaMAlex · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2007, 08:49 PM »

Sorry, been cooking the tea.

Love that RV darkersomeday, Very nice.

Dan, this seems like a good place to start:

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=26441.0

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=26158.0

I missed a page of the 96 scan, and now I cant find it!!!

harris · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2007, 08:57 PM »

god its like having homework

i need to read and dig.

SaMAlex · « **Reply #9 on:** March 12, 2007, 09:06 PM »

Dan, Im guessing that if you are talking early 90s / mid, then you are thinking 1". If thats the case then there are only 6 20" frames to look into (if you dont count the platform dirtbike as its own frame). If you find a mad dog or a menstural cycle then you MUST sell it to me, so thats down to 4. No one seems to like the HAF (I got one for £15 and one for £10 in the last year) so its Holmes, a dirtbike or a challenger.

See, its getting easier all ready.

darkersomeday · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2007, 09:22 PM »

holmes

dirtbike

challenger

from the later mid school frames aswell
i'll be honest though, i only ever rode my classic army green dirtbike a handful of times, it really was far too short,

the warpig is too heavy and too short
so's the sabbath
the chris bennett is an option but its not even remotely mid,

watch out for the headtube angles on the early holmes and dirtbike frames too i'm almost positive they were 74degree choppers!

harris · « **Reply #11 on:** March 12, 2007, 09:26 PM »

1" holmes is in the lead at the moment.

SaMAlex · « **Reply #12 on:** March 12, 2007, 09:45 PM »

Ive got a 2 1" dirtbikes that might be avalable. They are both 990 ones but one (chrome one) is quite early cos the drop outs are 2 thin ones stuck together.

harris · « **Reply #13 on:** March 12, 2007, 09:47 PM »

just been offered a 1" holmes .

darkersomeday · « **Reply #14 on:** March 12, 2007, 09:50 PM »

"1 holmes

not easy to find these days!

the current model light as fook frame has more similarities to the original holmes frame then the heavy as fook(imho)

i've always wanted to find a mint 1.18th holmes frame and trick it out with all the latest bits, kind of like a tuned retro hotrod!

sorry couldnt resist,any offers for the pair?

harris · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2007, 09:54 PM »

are you building that up ,looks trick.
im not sure of the condition of the holmes
but i wouldnt mind building up a bad boy ride
i got a few bits laying about .these rekka hubs
i got wouldnt fit without destroying the slots.

SaMAlex · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2007, 09:59 PM »

The HAF was dirtbike geometry but thicker tubes, bigger drop outs and a platform. The Holmes was always way nice, just the back end was long so not that good for mini / street. The LAF rules!!!

Dan, who has offered you a 1" Holmes? Pictures?

harris · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2007, 10:00 PM »

happy me. have not a pic yet.

darkersomeday · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2007, 10:02 PM »

i'm considering flogging them both on as i've at last found an eastern ti grim reaper for the next sub 20lb build,

the laf in the pic is as low as i can get it without sacrificing strength at 23lbs

are the rekka hubs 14mm? it wouldnt be un-mid school (is that even a word?) to grind them out, i did my old next gen back in the day,

if you really like the "1 holmes go with it,
if you get stuck for a rear 10mm 48 hub give us a shout!

harris · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2007, 10:04 PM »

the rekkas are 16mm

quite large things

SaMAlex · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2007, 10:06 PM »

You cant really widen the slots on early S&Ms unless you take it all out from the top, and then the angles get changed. I used to just grind a nick out of the spindles so they would fit in. But mine were only 12mm (first oversized hubs?).

harris · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2007, 10:07 PM »

the grinder will need to come out

i think they will need to wait for a different build then.

darkersomeday · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2007, 10:36 PM »

are the axles big enough! yosh!

keep them for a later mid build, keep your eye out for a solid killing mahine or an fbm angel of death!

nice wheels there though dude,