Author Topic: QUADANGLE CRUISER??? (Read 5953 times)

MartyC · « **Reply #25 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:34 PM »

Quote from: Rom Bloke on February 23, 2007, 09:30 PM

wasnt the skyway bars made from stainless too which would distinguish them from the originals anyway....

Dave

Yep, Dave I think you are right

Dingobmxer · « **Reply #26 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:38 PM »

I think all his bars are stainless, Kos bars too

DINGO

ORB · « **Reply #27 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:53 PM »

Some of the people who have been about for a while may remember 'Sanderspeeds'

Remember the big kick off about them?

This is where the whole 'fake' issue started.

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #28 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:54 PM »

yeah i do, what a farce.

MartyC · « **Reply #29 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:09 PM »

Quote from: ORB on February 23, 2007, 09:53 PM

Some of the people who have been about for a while may remember 'Sanderspeeds'

Remember the big kick off about them?

This is where the whole 'fake' issue started.

Didn't he try to pass them off as NOS Hutch though? Even had the H logo on them $:-\$

LXIX · « **Reply #30 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:13 PM »

this is the whole point you cant be safe to buy a set of hutch cranks now,or bottemas or a quad that is the whole point in why it is wrong,im not saying johhny c doestnt mark them im onabout 12 months down the line when you spend your hard earned cash on somthing advertised as real is a FAKE

ORB · « **Reply #31 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:16 PM »

Copying was more than common in the 80's

LXIX · « **Reply #32 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:17 PM »

it may have been but you paid less money in the shops for the parts, there was no ebay then

ORB · « **Reply #33 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:39 PM »

and the point there is?

Waxintaxin · « **Reply #34 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:50 PM »

It happens in all collectible hobbys , part of the atttraction for a lot of new collectors is the instant availibility of repops ( i just love that word)

I mean imagine trying to build a old VW without using reproduction parts

So the Issue is that without specialist knowledge you may get done over buying repops, the same unfortunetly in all walks of life . Diamonds , car parts etc etc

If someone is goiing to pay 1000s for welded bits of metal,some one who can weld is eventually going to repop it

so the only constructive way to assist is to compile the differences and give heads up if you spot them

JC stuff is easy to tell the diff its a repop not a counterfiet

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #35 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:52 PM »

i couldnt build my van without re pops.

i like that word too.

dordymush · « **Reply #36 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:53 PM »

i like fizzy pops better.

ORB · « **Reply #37 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:56 PM »

I for one dont like the word as it is so VBMX, and lets face it......

anyway,

Rich says

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I mean imagine trying to build a old VW without using reproduction parts

the point is, people dont care and they dont try, the person driving the VZ is happy to know he is driving a sweet OS car. and HE personally is happy, is that not what matters?

Why do peopl always take this hobby back to the financial side of it? just do as the Dubbers do and 'Run What You Brung'

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #38 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:58 PM »

amen brother.

Waxintaxin · « **Reply #39 on:** February 24, 2007, 12:06 AM »

I guess it horses for courses

i dont have anything but sticker sets repoped ( even better as a verb)

but would buy a repoped frame ,if I fancled riding it like a 24 Quad for example , If frames became massivly repoped then i would hope i knew the difference
If i didnt then i would hope to get clued up by doing my homeworkand asking questions on here, But i cetainly do agree that any repoped part should be marked as such or clearly Id'd as to be easily spotable

you are never going to stop it
and in my opinion many things have been copied and sold for original and no one has a bloody clue as they are so good

I guess it does make the original parts even more desirable and with the network of members on here the knowledge is availiable to spot them

Rich

Bob_Acid · « **Reply #40 on:** February 24, 2007, 01:13 AM »

Reproduction stuff is here and there's nothing we're going to do about it other than we spread the word, that's it, so that when this stuff is being sold as original we put bidders right. As much as we've all tried to put up a united front against it, we have not and will not stop it.

Threads like this are fine by me and whatever your opinion, they come up regularly enough so that any new members can see them and they will soon become aware of what fake stuff is out there.

Bren's idea of a fake library was a good one that we all should have taken up, i mean us, V and os. It's something we could all work together at but it'll take some one person that has time to put in the hours to make it work and Bren's fooked off so it won't be him i guess.

So till then we'll just have to keep reminding us with threads like this one.

LXIX · « **Reply #41 on:** February 24, 2007, 03:30 AM »

Quote from: oberonspacefruit on February 23, 2007, 08:08 PM

ahhh.

i wouldnt care.

the way things are going, you get 20 seconds of recognition for yet another build.

is that really worth the 2000 pounds that you spend?

very few people scrutinise the parts that matter i have found, and have been dissapointed when whoever didnt spot whatever.

id pay reasonable bucks for a copy of the part that was indistiguishable from the original.

THE WHOLE POINT IN A NUTSHELL A REASNOBLE PRICE , THE PROBLEM IS THAT THESE GUYS CAN GET IT SO SPOT ON THAT YOU CANT BUY IT FROM A PICTURE,EXAMPLE.,I WANT A SET OF AEROSPEEDS REAL AEROSPEEDS I SEE SOME COME UP ON EBAY IN USA I CANT BID ON THEM BECAUSE OF THE SANDERSPEED INCIDENT ,I HAVE TO SEE THEM CLOSE UP,THIS IS A PROBLEM,THE SAME WILL HAPPEN WITH THE BOTTEMAS THE ONLY WAY TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE AT THE MOMENT IS THE WELDING I BELIEVE IT HAS A LONGER RUN, SOMBODY COULD EASLY GRIND IT OFF, FLAP IT AND YOU WOULD NOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BUT THEY WOULD NOT SELL IT FOR WHAY THEY PAID OFF JC THEY WOULD MAKE A LOT OF MONEY THIS IS THE PROBLEM, NOT THE ORIGINAL SELLER BUT THE MIDDLE MAN,IT IS A PROBLEM

QUADROPHENIA · « **Reply #42 on:** February 24, 2007, 08:43 AM »

i do be liking that 24" quad, are they A head or threaded

Dingobmxer · « **Reply #43 on:** February 24, 2007, 08:53 AM »

Quote from: QUADROPHENIA on February 24, 2007, 08:43 AM

i do be liking that 24" quad, are they A head or threaded

The VRP Pete? its ahead mate,

also check out JC's version
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120073995351&rd=1&rd=1

DINGO

QUADROPHENIA · « **Reply #44 on:** February 24, 2007, 09:11 AM »

be liking the jc version

Dingobmxer · « **Reply #45 on:** February 24, 2007, 09:14 AM »

nice arent they?
He does 24" or 26" and ahed/v mounts or 1" caliper brake too

DINGO

zed4130 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 24, 2007, 09:17 AM »

that would make a great cool comuter bmx

QUADROPHENIA · « **Reply #47 on:** February 24, 2007, 10:04 AM »

calipers as well, best go and pm him i think

Coastvl · « **Reply #48 on:** February 24, 2007, 11:06 AM »

How can you argue with this?
I've been in this argument for quite a while now. I've copped a lot of crap (and still do, check the new thread on OS)
The forks are stamped and always have been. If anyones worried about resales, ask the seller for good clear closeup shots of the steerer tube.
All the bars are SS as JC has a boat parts business. The funny part is all the cro mo used in the forks is from the US.
The new shool forks are no probs. As Bottemas stopped being made around 83 I think.
Lots of US guys have bought the forks and not just nobodys. Very high profile guys like them. It's the collectors that don't like them. I can understand their points. Most of these forks are used on riders or racers. My original skatepark forks still have the rusty bits on them and thats the way they'll stay. You wont see Skatepark models from Australia, I have the only set

I still haven't used my set of JC's (stamped 004) I'll vacuum seal them and reap the rewards in 20 years

This is another mate, Petes daily rider.

Coastvl · « **Reply #49 on:** February 24, 2007, 11:11 AM »

Author Topic: QUADANGLE CRUISER??? (Read 5953 times)

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