Track design..good and bad

[piper]

What`s the best track you rode and why,what makes a good track and what makes a bad one,what aspects are a definite no,no when it comes to track design,could have an exciting project coming up...

[wolfybmx]

from bitd the water jump at buckmore park was great. always like jumping over that 

[spillers#1]

Harvington raiders track in beckenham it had a wicked kong jump i've got some pics somewhere i'll dig them out.

[MartyC]

from bitd the water jump at buckmore park was great. always like jumping over that 

That was good I remember struggling to clear it in the mud once along with everyone else as we had no speed by the time we hit it    The one they put in at Hounslow was pretty good too.  I also liked the step up jump into the last berm at Hounslow that was good and Birmingham Wheels track was excellent, mainly because it was downhill 

[db-oldskool]

The best track ever built,both BITD & today.
The only thing I'd change would be to put a 4 foot high tabletop jump across the finish line,for those spectacular Harry Leary style jumps while crossing the finish.

Pros:
Very tough track.
Lots of technical.
Intimidating.
Longer for pro riders.
Tighter for amatuers.
Staying dry.

Cons:
Very tough track.
Lots of technical.
Intimidating.
Longer for pro riders.
Tighter for amatuers.
Getting wet.

 




There are too many tracks today that are essentially formula 1 tracks with bumps. 
This track has everything except a tunnel & makes for great spectating. 

[piper]

That looks pretty mental,tell me do most tracks have a left or right hander as the first berm or does it not matter too much,

[RATTY]

Having the extended pro section is a good move, especially for the old uns who dont finish the track, then we can run the short bit....
Making the track over technical is a bummer...

The best english track was one in Albury, A very fast, very long downhill track, not too technical but cos of the speed made for some rad action.

[db-oldskool]

That looks pretty mental,tell me do most tracks have a left or right hander as the first berm or does it not matter too much,

I've seen plenty of both,right or left,I guess it just depended on the builder.

[db-oldskool]

Having the extended pro section is a good move, especially for the old uns who dont finish the track, then we can run the short bit....
Making the track over technical is a bummer...

The best english track was one in Albury, A very fast, very long downhill track, not too technical but cos of the speed made for some rad action.

Yes but that's mostly how the US built them BITD,plus training on or racing a lot on a track like that was the best way to hone the skillz.
When you hit an easier track you blew everybodys doors off,A lot of Pro riders got their "RAD" from riding tracks like that (No pun intended). 
There would be no or very few shots like this with those F-1 lump tracks everywhere.

[RATTY]

That is one fantastic shot, i remember that from bitd, it hung on my wall for years...
And i agree about honing your skills, the faster you hit jumps and berms, the better. When I race nowadays, i know im slow but, there seems to be very little action, it all seems to be gate and then pump, and as for these rhythm sections, you cant jump em, and you seem to loose so much speed. Bring back fast and Rad

[slurp]

i agree,personally i think they have ruined hayes by building those monsters at the end of the 1st straight.there wasnt many people jumping them when i went last year,and they wiped out speed if you "climbed" them.maybe there should novice section built around them.

best track for me bitd was chorley.steep start,loads of speed and the 2nd berm was like surfing a tube.

bartons attempt of putting a water jump in was toss as it was the middle of winter and they did it to cure the drainage problem.

i never raced darn sarf bitd but you boys had some great tracks.

dave

[MartyC]

i agree,personally i think they have ruined hayes by building those monsters at the end of the 1st straight.there wasnt many people jumping them when i went last year,and they wiped out speed if you "climbed" them.maybe there should novice section built around them.

dave

Dave, interesting comment about the new jumps, some guys like Alex Dick, the mad South African cruiser rider (don't know his name but he's fecking mental!), Charlie Luckhurst and a few others have no trouble in clearing them but you are right to a degree, they can suck the life out of you.  Perhaps one big set would have been better but who knows, it certainly gives riders a challenge.  Perhaps Uncle Buck can give us some insight as to why they were built 

[slurp]

i guess it depends on how compatent a rider you are. i was trying to get back into racing,went down one thursday last summer for a blat around and papped myself. havnt been back since which is a shame as theres a new standard 125r sat in my garage doing nowt. it was impressive when the lads you mentioned jumped them,but last year when i visited for a race there were only 3 lads who jumped them,the rest had there speed wiped off,and one young un got his folks to push him up them,which is why i believe in a pro section. that way the top riders have a challenge,whilst others can still ride the track. i guess thats why track building is bloody hard,everyone has there own ideas of what makes a good 1.(hence this thread)

cheers

dave

[Moschops]

Im not fussed about design coz I aint a good enough rider for it to bova me, however I hate HATE riding clockwise tracks....is it just me who's a bit 

[Dingobmxer]

I used to like the OLD Chesterfield track design, downhill and scary quick (I once crashed there and seemed to slide forever) the g forces in the bottom turn after the big step down fade were huge 
The new Chesterfield track is pretty Rad too, I also liked Farnham back when I could jump 
The problem is always gonna be that one track is gonna be used by 4 year old novices AND Elite riders on the same day so will always be a compromise
  DINGO

[Flying_fox]

Chesterfield...... the best track in england. Down hill, fast as hell, big jumps.

There's nothing wrong with Hayes first straight, it's my bollox that let me down on it... You have to push things or we'd still be racing on flat pieces of crap like we were in the 80's.



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Not a million miles apart is it, just 25 years.

FFS, even kids jump it



And next time so will this dodgy old schooler.