Identifying Genuine Haro Gen 1's

[BrianP]

I thought there was a sticky topic on this but I can't find one... 

Apart from:
longer seat tube above the gusset
lack of coaster bracket

What else can help determine Real versus Fake?

Where's the serial number?
Serial number format?
Anything else?


Brian.

[Rombloke]

ok the serial number is on the inside of the rear dropout, it sould start with a t, indicating a torker built bike, then two more letters, ie ss, then four numbers, then f

so t qq 1118 f, would be a real gen 1 serial no

there will be  a gap in the welding, approx 1 1/4 long on the downtube/headtube gusset, and if its a really old one then no weld on the under side of said gusset to the headtube.
knurling on the rear drop outs.
machined head tube, but not machined bb.

if i think of anything else i will post it here....hope that helps

Dave

[greentoad]

Hi

Even the fakes can have a coaster bracket. If I remember Falcon imported them, there are some pictures about of the advert and stating for sale around £70 (i'll try and dig it out).

The ways are pretty much what Dave has stated -

- but I am not sure that all bikes have Knurling in the same place (early adverts say they do have knurling though)

- are not always four numbers in the serial (depends on age)

The easiest way is to find the serial, see if it has a T then two letters the same (eg) AA BB CC etc and then some numbers, followed by F.

J.

ok the serial number is on the inside of the rear dropout, it sould start with a t, indicating a torker built bike, then two more letters, ie ss, then four numbers, then f

so t qq 1118 f, would be a real gen 1 serial no

there will be  a gap in the welding, approx 1 1/4 long on the downtube/headtube gusset, and if its a really old one then no weld on the under side of said gusset to the headtube.
knurling on the rear drop outs.
machined head tube, but not machined bb.

if i think of anything else i will post it here....hope that helps

Dave

[Rombloke]

j, ive yet to see one without knurling, but there are obviously variations of most frame sets....

does this mean you have some evidence.....sounds interesting

Dave

[MartyC]

I would like to see an advert for them, might be quite revealing 

[BrianP]

Cool! Thanks guys,

That's a big help.

(Just gotta wait for one to come along now!)

Brian.

[Rombloke]

heres the original ad....



Dave

[MartyC]

Nice one Dave, how about the advert for the Falcon copies? 

[Rombloke]

Nice one Dave, how about the advert for the Falcon copies? 

do you really think i would have a falcon ad on file in my laptop marty....ffs

lol

Dave

[MartyC]

Nice one Dave, how about the advert for the Falcon copies? 

do you really think i would have a falcon ad on file in my laptop marty....ffs

lol

Dave

Yeah, sorry about that  - probably no room with all that porn you've got on there 

 

[Rombloke]

exactly....

i mean................

shit...well sussed

Dave

[greentoad]

Non machined headtube, different style coaster tab and no knurling on the rear dropouts.





J.

j, ive yet to see one without knurling, but there are obviously variations of most frame sets....

does this mean you have some evidence.....sounds interesting

Dave

[munners]

Mines got Knurling in the rear dropouts. Is it fake?

[greentoad]

No, yours is fine.

I have been trying to find proof for ages that there was a Haro without knurling.

Yours is a very clean bike (I think this is yours)  -

http://s191.photobucket.com/albums/z96/Haro_Registry/Gen%202%20Freestyler/TRR%201352%20F/

Could do with some more pictures though - please email, PM or put some on Rad.

Thanks

J.

Mines got Knurling in the rear dropouts. Is it fake?