Author Topic: Anyone id this frame pls ? (Read 2640 times)

haro__master1985 · « **on:** November 29, 2006, 12:10 PM »

Has a 100% cro moly sticker on seat tube ,frame # 583119 on l/hand dropout together with the letter P ?

Sorry for crap pics taken on phone $:-\$

dan-dare · « **Reply #1 on:** November 29, 2006, 12:33 PM »

PPPPPPPP...........Patterson??

harris · « **Reply #2 on:** November 29, 2006, 12:34 PM »

great find that mahoooosive seat post is patterson style so looks a gooden

MartyC · « **Reply #3 on:** November 29, 2006, 12:53 PM »

Patterson's usually have a machined head tube and bb and the rear dropouts don't look Patterson to me, does it have a US or Euro BB? Could be a Powerlite?

haro__master1985 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 29, 2006, 03:39 PM »

Its got the standard type crank same as quad/haro etc is that US ?

Had all the right bits on it but gonna split for parts.

"Just had a look on oldschoolbmx site does look alttle like the patterson long model " he said hoping others would agree

pickle · « **Reply #5 on:** November 29, 2006, 04:58 PM »

I'm liking the original OS celotape cable ties!

greentoad · « **Reply #6 on:** November 29, 2006, 05:27 PM »

WoW, looks good.

I have no idea to be honest, but from the serial I would guess as - Patterson, May 1983 and Number 119.

If so it could be a Long, but the drop-outs look wrong for the Long bikes I've seen. Not all Pattersons seem to have a flanged head tube though and other Pattersons do have similar drop outs as yours.

It does look a lot like a Patterson Avalanche to me, but what about the serial - did they make them in 83 - or is the date that I worked out wrong?

I'm pretty sure it's a Patterson but model and year....?

What is the brake bridge like? And does it have support behind the BB? - Pics Please.

J.

Moose · « **Reply #7 on:** November 29, 2006, 05:32 PM »

I don't think it's a Patterson - didn't the seat stays meet the seat tube more at the side? Also, the rear drop-outs look like Powerlite?

monk3y · « **Reply #8 on:** November 29, 2006, 05:49 PM »

could be a patterson pro 82, have a look on vintagebmx.com

snav69 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 29, 2006, 05:53 PM »

Looks like this to me

http://www.bmxmuseum.com/bikes/patterson/1273

Looks like the rear dropouts were different before 85 $:-\$

Sorry for the external link guys

Paul

greentoad · « **Reply #10 on:** November 29, 2006, 06:00 PM »

The seat stays don't wrap around the sides, as mentioned - http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=109.0

But look at the dropouts - http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/patterson/image86 same P and postioning for P and serial -

http://www.bmxmuseum.com/bikes/patterson/1273 - has flanged head tube though.

J.

snav69 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 29, 2006, 06:01 PM »

Hmmmmm , on closer inspection , the rear dropouts are different slightly.The tops aren't as straight as on the patterson on the museum

Fook knows $:-\$

jT Racing · « **Reply #12 on:** November 29, 2006, 06:02 PM »

nice torker stem by the looks of it too.

jT Racing · « **Reply #13 on:** November 29, 2006, 06:09 PM »

oh, and it is a powerlite like moose says. i can't tell you which model, but with them dropouts it's a powerlite for sure.

only one i can find for you is this

but it's not clear. but it's the flat top to the dropouts that says powerlite.

DaveDawson · « **Reply #14 on:** November 29, 2006, 06:12 PM »

It looks like one of the early Patterson frames when they moved from the machines head tube to the latrer type smooth head tube - most likely to be a small or mini frame as the larger oned didnt have such a long seat tube

Moose · « **Reply #15 on:** November 29, 2006, 06:18 PM »

Quote from: DaveDawson on November 29, 2006, 06:12 PM

It looks like one of the early Patterson frames when they moved from the machines head tube to the latrer type smooth head tube - most likely to be a small or mini frame as the larger oned didnt have such a long seat tube

Surely early pattersons would have the distinctive seatstays and the older style drop-outs?

Here's a Powerlite with those drops, but it also has a machined headtube....

jT Racing · « **Reply #16 on:** November 29, 2006, 06:21 PM »

brake bridge pic might help

greentoad · « **Reply #17 on:** November 29, 2006, 06:35 PM »

Some Powerlites - http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/powerlite/

But the height of the seat post tube does not seem high enough.

Lets not forget the font for P, the slight angle of it, and also the position of the serial all seems to be Patterson.

Anyone got a picture of a Powerlite serial? (Surely they would not of been identical)

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/patterson/1273/4 - has a 7 digit serial (raather than the unknown bike with 6 digits) but maybe they hoped that more would sell! However, the dates and numbers do fit - Feb 1984 and number 165 (follows on from May 1983 and Number 119).

J.

Moose · « **Reply #18 on:** November 29, 2006, 06:59 PM »

Don't the Patterson PR200's (with that style drop-out) also only have short seat tubes (and of course the distinctive seat stays)?

Zippy · « **Reply #19 on:** November 29, 2006, 07:46 PM »

It's not a Patterson as the headtube is all wrong. The dropouts were also longer than those of the one pictured.

jT Racing · « **Reply #20 on:** November 29, 2006, 08:20 PM »

check out the flat top.

Bigplinky · « **Reply #21 on:** November 29, 2006, 09:30 PM »

It's a Maximum rare as fook if the top tube is 18.75" it's a XL like mine.

Ray Beard on Vintage is the world encyclopedia on them and has the repro stickers

Andy

Moose · « **Reply #22 on:** November 29, 2006, 10:02 PM »

That solves that little mystery, nice one

I should have recognised it after the amount of drooling I did over your Maximum at Bournemouth '05

haro__master1985 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 29, 2006, 11:03 PM »

Best make sure it doesnt end up in the skip at work then !!!!

cheers for the help guys !!!!

MartyC · « **Reply #24 on:** November 29, 2006, 11:16 PM »

Nice one and well sorted! If it gets built like the one above it will look the dogs doodars

Author Topic: Anyone id this frame pls ? (Read 2640 times)

haro__master1985

dan-dare

haro__master1985

greentoad

monk3y

snav69

greentoad

snav69

DaveDawson

greentoad

haro__master1985