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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #100 on: November 28, 2006, 10:50 PM »
i dont see any freestly bikes in that pic just bicycle moto cross rides

and a shit-load of tuffs.....



...all at the pipeline :daumenhoch:

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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #101 on: November 28, 2006, 10:54 PM »
thats a good pic though moose
it actually proves my point nicely

not the ruffell one though, lol.

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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #102 on: November 28, 2006, 10:54 PM »
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as for the other pic, i see tuff 1's, graphs and spokes.

There must be 10-15 bikes there 3 of which run spokes (and I bet they got the piss took out of them)  :LolLolLolLol:


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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #103 on: November 28, 2006, 10:55 PM »

Neil with spokes on the Holeshot frame...


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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #104 on: November 28, 2006, 10:59 PM »
spokes and a 1pc crank
now thats a freestyle bike, for your ass

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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #105 on: November 28, 2006, 11:00 PM »
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it actually proves my point nicely

It does nothing to prove your point. Graphites are tuffs - tuff I's are tuffs (if a little bit old).

If there's say 12 bikes there and 3 have spokes that means 75% ran tuffs (however way you want to see it).

And just to prove it's not just radbmx here's the thread where that picture came from

http://www.vintagebmx.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=008380;p=3

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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #106 on: November 28, 2006, 11:02 PM »
spokes and a 1pc crank
now thats a freestyle bike, for your ass

...and check out the date February '86? WOuld they be 48's he's running - surely that proves my point?  ??? :LolLolLolLol:

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« Reply #107 on: November 28, 2006, 11:06 PM »
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it actually proves my point nicely

It does nothing to prove your point. Graphites are tuffs - tuff I's are tuffs (if a little bit old).

If there's say 12 bikes there and 3 have spokes that means 75% ran tuffs (however way you want to see it).

And just to prove it's not just radbmx here's the thread where that picture came from

http://www.vintagebmx.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=008380;p=3

so 25% ran "non-plastic" wheels?
thats more than the 0% a few pages back in this thread.
i should have found that pic and posted it at the start

that was my point, that it wasnt all tuffs.
some riders run spokey wheels all the time.
eventually virtually everyone did.

lol there aint 25% agreeing with me here though. basts

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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #108 on: November 28, 2006, 11:07 PM »
..and who's this with tuffs as well?  :LolLolLolLol:


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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #109 on: November 28, 2006, 11:08 PM »
what are you saying?

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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #110 on: November 28, 2006, 11:13 PM »
Fcuk me guys, 8 pages ???
I definately wasnt into  bmx in as big a way as a lot of you guys, but i remember all the my mates wanting skyways, my first bmx, ammaco team cro moly had araya copies and i really wanted skyways for it although it wasnt a freestyler, when i got my curtis freestyler with em on i was chuffed to bits.
Whether you like em or not they do seem to define old school bmx, even my missus who knows sweet fa about bmx tells me my bike looks far more retro with the tuffs on, now if she says it they must be good cos shes never wrong :LolLolLolLol:
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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #111 on: November 28, 2006, 11:14 PM »
Tuffs ruled  :4_17_5:

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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #112 on: November 28, 2006, 11:15 PM »
You should forget putting up pics of Profesionals with tuffs or spokes, they used the wheels they were paid too, or the polictics dictated at the time. Anybody that used mags that wern`t Tuffs did so because they couldn`t afford them, or were paid to use another brand.

Ammaco riders hardly ever used Tuffs, if at all, because they were in competiton with the importer, Freewheeler.

The choice of wheel bitd for freestyle was Tuffs, thats why Skyway had the best riders on their teams, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it  :LolLolLolLol:
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« Reply #113 on: November 28, 2006, 11:18 PM »
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Ammaco riders hardly ever used Tuffs, if at all, because they were in competiton with the importer, Freewheeler.

Ah, so that's why complete Ammaco's never came with tuffs  :daumenhoch:

I always thought it was because they were trying to keep costs down.

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« Reply #114 on: November 28, 2006, 11:18 PM »
lol. you're biased.

and as for using the wheels they were paid to use, thats very true.

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« Reply #115 on: November 28, 2006, 11:19 PM »
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Ammaco riders hardly ever used Tuffs, if at all, because they were in competiton with the importer, Freewheeler.

Ah, so that's why complete Ammaco's never came with tuffs  :daumenhoch:

I always thought it was because they were trying to keep costs down.

wait a minute - which mags did the ammaco 202 mag (or whatever it was called) have?

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« Reply #116 on: November 28, 2006, 11:20 PM »
I only had tuffs bitd. the were the wheels to have. if you asked anyone in their 30's (i'm talking about non-riders) what they remember about bmx's they would all say skyway tuff II's.

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« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2006, 11:22 PM »
if you ask any non-hiphop enthusiasts about what they know about scratching they all say "wikki wikki woo"

cliche.

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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #118 on: November 28, 2006, 11:24 PM »
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Ammaco riders hardly ever used Tuffs, if at all, because they were in competiton with the importer, Freewheeler.

Ah, so that's why complete Ammaco's never came with tuffs  :daumenhoch:

I always thought it was because they were trying to keep costs down.

wait a minute - which mags did the ammaco 202 mag (or whatever it was called) have?

Regardless of whether they produced a bike with Tuffs on, they never promoted them or let their sponsored riders use them   :police:
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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #119 on: November 28, 2006, 11:25 PM »
I'd love to stay and debate all night, but I've got to be up at 05:30. Thanks for the stimulating discussion though  :daumenhoch:

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wait a minute - which mags did the ammaco 202 mag (or whatever it was called) have?

If I remember rightly they were shitters and one of the freestylers I think came with Acorn Freestylers (but that was later on).

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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #120 on: November 28, 2006, 11:26 PM »
this place is all about stimulating discussion :)

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« Reply #121 on: November 28, 2006, 11:28 PM »
Great Thread

Most people that I rode with did both racing in the EA series and freestyle at Stevenage, Knebworth etc (and lots of flatland on the streets) tried Tuffs, but in the end (by 83 to 85) only a few had Tuffs, most had Araya's.

Their was many a meet in the early days of Royston Rockets and the Tuffs never won a race, and many a wheel broke on the first main jump.

From all the local shops - Faze 7, Custom Riders and Sigma all within a few miles, Araya's were the things that sold and people would ride on. Maybe it was the weight issue, but me (35 nearly 36) can only remember 1/2 a dozen or so that rode Tuffs by about 85 - a PK Ripper, a white T/A and a Quad, the rest average bikes but with the Tuffs nicked from Burners, all the other bikes ran spokes.

Araya's and a single piece crank, carn't believe that people on here would think this doesn't look era correct or a proper bike.



Araya's for me every day, but I do agree that Tuffs have the looks and I also have many sets. I'd prefer some mint sets of Araya Aero's though.

J.


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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #122 on: November 28, 2006, 11:35 PM »
Yeah they wern`t great for racing, but if you mentioned it to Skyway USA they always replied `Well Richy Anderson seems to do ok on them`  ::)
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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #123 on: November 28, 2006, 11:37 PM »
tim march raced on tuffs too, sometimes.
and andy patterson.

Trev

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Re: tuff wheels and rose tinted glasses
« Reply #124 on: November 28, 2006, 11:41 PM »
Don't forget also, when you was younger, most people had their heroes who they wanted to be able to ride like.

Riders like Bill, Craig, Neil, Carlo, Pepi etc were the best riders back then and being sponsored by skyway had to ride tuffs therefore prompting their fans to also ride them.

I bought Skyway bikes purely on the basis that Neil Ruffell rode for them.  When he went to Holeshot I was so close to buying the RF1 just because Neil rode one.  How I wish I had bought one now.

Anyway, I'm sure a lot of other riders were like me and bought the parts used by the top riders.  After all if it was good enough for them, it sure as hell was gonna be good enough for me...

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