Lyn Kastan designed the first condors .... maybe he made the very first gens of condors?
we need to ask brett downs if he knows ... he has registered on here as pwh4130
I checked in Mats Biography according to him Linn Kasten designed and built the first 5 Condors which Mat and co tested and tried to Destroy but when it came to production he could'nt afford Linns prices so He got Mike Devitt of S.E Racing to build the first production ones.But it was taking 6 months a batch for S.E to build them and he could feel the initial rush of orders waining as people wer'nt prepared to wait that long He also felt that the S.E guys would stop 1/2 way through a run to do someone elses work.So thats when they set up the ramp room machine shop with Steve Gack as foreman.
It would appear that the first brochure was published whilst the S.E frames were being produced and that was in 92 according to the book.My bike was bought by Darren Glaggit as a frame and forks from Backyard in Hastings in late 92.It matches exactly the one in the brochure and is I believe a S.E built frame.It has no frame number and the relaxed head angle of the early frames.
Check against the original Catalogue
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Also I have a copy of the first Bmx Plus Test from November 92 Carried out by Chris Potts of Potts mod fame.
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Check out the geometry on the last page these are the same as my bike so I think that maybe the S.E Condors at least did not have a frame number.
I hope this helps.