Bullseye Cranks

[factory pilot]

Bullseye cranks are a lovely piece of kit and have become super popular and trendy on high end show bikes.
All I can remember is the tiny black and white adverts in BMX Plus.

Andy has a couple of these on his bikes which look lush to be fair.
I was even thinking about getting a pair for my next build ( I don't think they'd have looked right to be fair so I changed my mind in the end )

How much were they back bitd?

Were they cheaper or more than 400s or 401s ?

Did anyone on here use them in the UK or know someone who did ?

Were they more used for Race or Freestyle ?

Last question......
I've got almost 200 magazines/books ( UK and US ) and I don't have any or recall ever seeing any pictures of someone riding with a set of these?

Has anyone got any pics of people bitd with these on their bikes..., I'd love to see them!
Thanks in advance, Ant

[MartyC]

I don't recall seeing them on bikes or ever seeing them come through the trade bitd. I am very suspicious of the recent boom in these appearing on the old school scene after all if it looks to good to be true it probably is. 

[rooski]

Never saw any bitd, seen some on mtbs.

Most Bullseye stuff is newish, last 10 years, very little true old stock.

Loads of nos cranks, pedals, hubs, spiders etc have appeared in the last few years, most have been made in the last few years.

Be VERY wary of "NOS" Bullseye stuff.

[Quadog]

Never seen any on bikes BITD just those little B&W ads in magazines I have set on my Quad would be interesting to know if they are authentic or not there must be some officinardos out there

[Taipan]

Mostly seen on mtb and from not that long ago? never ever seen any on anything bitd,the rich and famous always sported the redline brand but do remember seeing the CW 3 piece dog bone cranks now and then 

[factory pilot]

Never seen any on bikes BITD just those little B&W ads in magazines I have set on my Quad would be interesting to know if they are authentic or not there must be some officinardos out there

... And they do look very cool on your Quad mate.

Yep would be good to hear some more details on these cranks and who had them?

[oldschoolace]

After what i have read about bulleye on the museum over the years i wouldnt go anywhere near the stuff Ant.
Seems to be a right hotchpotch of timelines, lawsuits, repro, hubs made with old shells and sold as 80's when in fact they are 2010 ish. And thats just off the top of my head!

Just not worth throwing your money at unless you are pretty confident of their provenance.

[rooski]

After what i have read about bulleye on the museum over the years i wouldnt go anywhere near the stuff Ant.
Seems to be a right hotchpotch of timelines, lawsuits, repro, hubs made with old shells and sold as 80's when in fact they are 2010 ish. And thats just off the top of my head!

Just not worth throwing your money at unless you are pretty confident of their provenance.

This is the thread I remember, its 25 pages long..................

Think Clint has read it too.......................

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=475473&p=6

[oldschoolace]

Thats the one 

[kalex]

Was it bullseye that said they found a old warehouse full of NOS hubs etc only that it ended up as being newly made by themselves.

I may be wrong but I know there was something very shadey about what the owners of bullseye actually did

[factory pilot]

This stuff is incredible ... The thread is long but the gist is the the guy at Bullseye made ( and fake aged ) parts/packages and sold them as Deadstock NOS !!!!

Can't believe it passed me by ...
All very sad and depressing for our hobby ...

I had no idea ... Here's a couple of excepts that are big revelations and show the main points ..






At one point some "faked" hubs sold for $700!!!!!


The question still remains ... Who actually had/used them bitd?

[dancetothedrummersbeat]

I personally wouldn't buy a set of hubs as it can be difficult to tell between old and new ones. No such issue with the cranks - depending on who you ask the 3 (or 2 with 2 phases) generations of cranks are easy to spot.
1st gen - hollow crank spindle on non drive side. No intergrated spider/powerdisc circular part to drive side
Gen 1.


Gen 2's had a circular part welded to the drive side onto which the spider or powerdisc could be attached.




Gen 2, phase 1 cranks had a hollow spindle. The non drive side arms were prone to working loose and falling off, so they modified the design which became gen 2, phase 2's (sometimes referred to as gen 3's). These featured a solid spindle end to the non drive side, so a retaining bolt and washer/stopper could be fixed to prevent the crank arm coming off. A safety key was also introduced where the pinch bolt was as a secondary safety feature - photo below shows the non drive side with retaining bolt/washer

[factory pilot]

Great info Andy

[rooski]

Some pics of genuine Bullseye hubs,

Bought this pair of wheels in 2008 and they were USED.

Make of them what you will, I'm sayin fook all.

[Midschoolfool]

Wow man that's pretty crazy really. How do you score $700 for a set of hubs? fake them.

I'm so glad that I am on a shoestring budget when it comes to buying stuff. It makes me a lot more careful about what I buy, and limits me from being ripped off I suppose.

TBH guys I had never even heard of Bullseye until a couple of weeks ago when it was talked about on the BMX museum. I can't say I liked them much either. They don't look anything special to me, and I have seen far nicer looking crank sets than that too (JAD's for example).