Author Topic: Ammaco Koolstyler's (Read 8819 times)

Retrodan72 · « **on:** August 22, 2016, 08:52 PM »

Anyone know anything about them before I do any research?

Years manufactured?
Spec?
Where they were made?

Any info really.

Cheers lads.

Jaymz · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2016, 09:08 PM »

A little bit

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kdw712/media/mongoose%20scans/koolstyler.jpg.html

chubby · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2016, 12:31 AM »

You wouldn't like em, they're freestyler's

fischflo · « **Reply #3 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:26 PM »

apparently it's a hi-tensile four-model range bike ....according to this not very informative review/specs of the Koolstyler in 1984 BMX Biker Monthly No10 (Incomplete) $:-\$
http://bmx-recollection.com/Downloads/Magazines%20(UK)/BMX%20Biker%20Monthly/BMX%20Biker%20Monthly%20No10%20(Incomplete).pdf

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You will already know this, Danny-san, but just 4 the record - about differences to the Freestyler PRO:
warduke on bmxmuseum:
"I have a koolstyler and researched it for months to find out the true make. I discovered that the downtube dosent go up as high on the koolstyler, so the gussets at the headtube are smaller than the freestyle. And I also saw freestyles serial numbers that start with k's. There is a great koolstyler ad out there, and that was the nail in the coffin for me. So bigger gussets = freestyles. (http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=428741)

review of the Freestyle Pro range (king, pro, or ace)
http://bmx-recollection.com/Downloads/Magazines%20(UK)/Freestyle%20BMX/Freestyle%20BMX%20Volume1%20Issue01.pdf

factory pilot · « **Reply #4 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:38 PM »

I hope you are going to go for one Dan .. I loved these as a kid .. It's why I had whitewalls on my burner

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:38 PM »

The only reason I'm interested in knowing a bit about then is, while I was at MK, I got a FB message from a guy I know, and he was doing a job at a house and the guy he was doing the job for had this in his shed. I was wondering if it was worth a punt? I know a bit about them from memory, as my two mates who were twins had them for Christmas in 1984. The issue for me is, if I were to get it, I would want to keep it as a total survivor, but replace the non spec parts with originals in the same condition, so what spec is it, and are the missing parts easy to get hold of. Also, how much do I offer this chap to take it off his hands?

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Jaymz · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:55 PM »

The hardest part to replace is that top tube pad Dan, and thats there, the rest should be a breeze

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:59 PM »

The dealer sticker on the main tube is Dave Miller Cycles in Chester, they're still going to this day, maybe they have some information on the sale or particular model type.

I'm a bit thrown by the tyres, surely they would be a freestyle tread, rather than Comp tread?

factory pilot · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:06 PM »

Just found these pics ...

Jaymz · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:06 PM »

Quote from: Retrodan72 on August 23, 2016, 03:59 PM

The dealer sticker on the main tube is Dave Miller Cycles in Chester, they're still going to this day, maybe they have some information on the sale or particular model type.

I'm a bit thrown by the tyres, surely they would be a freestyle tread, rather than Comp tread?

white wall shopper tyres I reckon were on it originally

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:10 PM »

Quote from: Jaymz on August 23, 2016, 04:06 PM

Quote from: Retrodan72 on August 23, 2016, 03:59 PM
The dealer sticker on the main tube is Dave Miller Cycles in Chester, they're still going to this day, maybe they have some information on the sale or particular model type.

I'm a bit thrown by the tyres, surely they would be a freestyle tread, rather than Comp tread?
white wall shopper tyres I reckon were on it originally

That's what I remember from my friends bikes, I need to message those guys to see if they remember anything. I do remember them both having the WW model though.

Jaymz · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:11 PM »

Looking at the chainring its not the low end one as its not a nasty one peice steel thing

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:16 PM »

Quote from: Jaymz on August 23, 2016, 04:11 PM

Looking at the chainring its not the low end one as its not a nasty one peice steel thing

Good spot J, defo not entry level then.

Jaymz · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:31 PM »

I reckon all you need is a Viscount Aero seat in white
Pair of Happy shopper tyres
white copy mushrooms
and a pair of Victor DX pedals.

dinglem · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2016, 05:38 PM »

Hi Dan, it's essentially the same frame as the Freestyle Pro, but with slightly lower spec standard parts. Lovely frames (and forks are for some reason, pretty rare) and you won't regret buying it if you do. I have a full mag article test ride somewhere, albeit on the Freestyle Pro, but it gets great comments.

Serial number on the BB can be dated. First three digits will be something like 408, the 4 being 84 and 08 being August. The earlier ones had a stamped gusset but the cracked so the later ones were unstamped. Mine is July 84 and is stamped (from memory) so that one will be late 84 or early 85.

I have a NOS Ammaco padset and have scanned it and sent it to 'the usual pad guy' so you'll be able to get new pads.

I'm a race guy and my Ammaco is my only a Freestyle bike. I love it - fab to ride and very light weight, and most importantly it isn't too valuable (Haro) to chuck about.

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2016, 05:41 PM »

Quote from: dinglem on August 23, 2016, 05:38 PM

Hi Dan, it's essentially the same frame as the Freestyle Pro, but with slightly lower spec standard parts. Lovely frames (and forks are for some reason, pretty rare) and you won't regret buying it if you do. I have a full mag article test ride somewhere, albeit on the Freestyle Pro, but it gets great comments.

Serial number on the BB can be dated. First three digits will be something like 408, the 4 being 84 and 08 being August. The earlier ones had a stamped gusset but the cracked so the later ones were unstamped. Mine is July 84 and is stamped (from memory) so that one will be late 84 or early 85.

I have a NOS Ammaco padset and have scanned it and sent it to 'the usual pad guy' so you'll be able to get new pads.

I'm a race guy and my Ammaco is my only a Freestyle bike. I love it - fab to ride and very light weight, and most importantly it isn't too valuable (Haro) to chuck about.

Great info Mart, cheers for that.

I've got a contact number for this fella, apparently, he's got 2 other bikes, but can't remember what they are.

dinglem · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2016, 06:05 PM »

Chain ring is most likely an Ammaco stamped one also.

BMX1973 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:58 PM »

Kool

That would be a great survivor that.

dinglem · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2016, 09:21 PM »

Has the correct hinged seatpost clamp and judging by the hubs it has the correct mags also. Looks pretty much spot on buddy.

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 23, 2016, 09:30 PM »

Quote from: dinglem on August 23, 2016, 09:21 PM

Has the correct hinged seatpost clamp and judging by the hubs it has the correct mags also. Looks pretty much spot on buddy.

It's very different to the ones my mates had, their's had B1B copies, Suntour copy stems - not SR, wire wheels and the whitewall tyres as Jaymz has described.

fischflo · « **Reply #20 on:** August 23, 2016, 09:56 PM »

Are those Shopper tyres the same as these?:
KENDA K121 20 x 1.75 WHITEWALLs (12.99 the pair) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-KENDA-K121-20-x-1-75-WHITEWALL-Bicycle-Tyres-BMX-Bike-Junior-Street-NEW-/232056574673?hash=item3607a652d1:g:FvQAAOSw7NNUAIjZ

...cuz Sawzall Phil has a 100% original Koolstyler...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,6939.msg77537.html#msg77537
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,21724.msg221775.html#msg221775
(=http://s3.photobucket.com/user/sawzall717/media/ripper.jpg.html for larger pic) )
...and that seems to have Kendas on

He should know, he can give full spec

-- the FS Pro also had Kenda whitewalls ('round tread' according to the test see above),

kalex · « **Reply #21 on:** August 23, 2016, 10:17 PM »

Quote from: Retrodan72 on August 23, 2016, 03:59 PM

The dealer sticker on the main tube is Dave Miller Cycles in Chester, they're still going to this day, maybe they have some information on the sale or particular model type.

I'm a bit thrown by the tyres, surely they would be a freestyle tread, rather than Comp tread?

Is that the shop between what use to be Yates pub ( i think ) and Iceland. If so I thought that closed yonks ago

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 23, 2016, 10:52 PM »

Quote from: kalex on August 23, 2016, 10:17 PM

Quote from: Retrodan72 on August 23, 2016, 03:59 PM
The dealer sticker on the main tube is Dave Miller Cycles in Chester, they're still going to this day, maybe they have some information on the sale or particular model type.

I'm a bit thrown by the tyres, surely they would be a freestyle tread, rather than Comp tread?

Is that the shop between what use to be Yates pub ( i think ) and Iceland. If so I thought that closed yonks ago

Yes mate, that's the one, still going. Yate's is long gone though.

deeman · « **Reply #23 on:** August 24, 2016, 12:32 AM »

Cool find Dan...I have always liked this series of Ammaco's. Looks mostly original apart from tyres....is the frame full cromo?

fischflo · « **Reply #24 on:** August 24, 2016, 12:54 AM »

full cromo were only some of the Freestyle range - the Pros also with cromo forks. - Koolstylers were hi-ten