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monkian

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Frame ID
« on: June 09, 2016, 12:47 PM »
Can anyone help with a firm ID on this frame (ignoring the forks)? I bought it because I wanted the ARX that came with it so I've just stuck these others in as I had them in stock.

The seller thought it was an Akisu frame and it could well be but it doesn't have the typical Akisu type drop-outs. It does have the barrel on the bridge that Akisu use but I can't find one with this type of HT gusset. It's also got an unusual stamp on the BB.

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« Last Edit: June 09, 2016, 01:31 PM by monkian »

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Re: Frame ID
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2016, 07:45 PM »
It's definately got a Japanese flavour to it I'd say, there were some early tange frames with that style dropout before they adopted the three hole style. Could it be something like a giant or equally obscure Japanese brand in the shadows of tange and akisu

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Re: Frame ID
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2016, 08:00 PM »
Jen Ming? I have a frame that has the same barrel on the bridge, has the same geometry by the looks, but has different dropouts and gussets to yours. Mine could be a Jen Ming, but still not 100% sure.

No idea about the stamp, does it have a 'proper' serial number? Mine has just numbers on the BB

monkian

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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2016, 08:40 PM »
Definitely not Tange but early Akisu were Japanese made. No other stamp/s on the frame.

The seller was told when he bought it that it dates from 79 and was a pre-serial team edition!! I've done a bit of a search and this was an interesting development:






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Re: Frame ID
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2016, 09:27 PM »
Nice digging Paul but a pre-serial team edition what. ???
It ain't no Redline that's for sure.
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Re: Frame ID
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2016, 09:35 PM »
Nice digging Paul but a pre-serial team edition what. ???
It ain't no Redline that's for sure.

 :LolLolLolLol:  Just re-read it.  :idiot2:

Apart from that gusset thingy the rear drops are Akisulike... perhaps he's right. ???
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monkian

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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2016, 09:36 PM »
He thought Akisu Team? I haven't found anything on that either.

It's certainly not a factory Redline that's for sure but I know Linn Kastan went to Japan for help in those early days because of their technical and production set up. It's just interesting that this is the only one that's cropped up so far and there's a Japanese connection.

monkian

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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2016, 09:39 PM »
Jaymz was right on the drop outs, they're more the Giant style like Tange used early on, rather than the more familiar Akisu type ;)

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Re: Frame ID
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2016, 09:53 PM »
Jaymz was right on the drop outs, they're more the Giant style like Tange used early on, rather than the more familiar Akisu type ;)

I agree... just had a look.  :daumenhoch:
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Re: Frame ID
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2016, 07:28 AM »
Interesting find Paul, I've no idea but i'm liking the detective work  :daumenhoch:

monkian

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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2016, 09:30 AM »
Yeah, thanks Rob ;) Still nothing firm on it yet. There must be a few more out there somewhere!! :/

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Re: Frame ID
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2016, 07:57 PM »
This has got me digging like a mole, I love a mystery frame.

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