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Griff, I'm not up on this malarkey , but is there a way to allow sales on Facebook , but restricted to only those that have a site supporters tag ?
The forum could become free using advertising, they've become so advanced the ads hardly interfere with the enjoyment of the forums, most forums have gone down this route now because of pressure from other platforms that are free to use and you don't have to muck about with subs and the associated administration.Just food for thought long live the forum and MK
Quote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 04:50 PMThe forum could become free using advertising, they've become so advanced the ads hardly interfere with the enjoyment of the forums, most forums have gone down this route now because of pressure from other platforms that are free to use and you don't have to muck about with subs and the associated administration.Just food for thought long live the forum and MK You've put this suggestion forward several times now Paulif you want the forum to live long, then shifting the platform across to a board that has adverts on will (apart from looking crap in MY opinion) mean that we risk losing loads of members. By far the biggest kick in the bollocks the forum ever got was the crash which caused everyone to have to re-register again. If we combine the increased admin with a 'new' site full of ads then that potentially makes the place less attractive for many people, well myself anyway.I understand that you haven't been to MK (fine) also note that you don't have a SST (fine too, you're still very welcome to post here). No-one's asking for your money, but I don't understand why you're so passionate about trying to separate the forum from its biggest annual event. My only guess is because you haven't been to MK, then you would see how MK represents everything that's great about this community - not just on the internets but in real life. I strongly recommend that now the dates have been posted that you do whatever you can to attend, like I said before I can guarantee you a very warm welcome and a weekend seeing the best bikes this community has to offer
Quote from: griff on February 12, 2016, 05:23 PMQuote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 04:50 PMThe forum could become free using advertising, they've become so advanced the ads hardly interfere with the enjoyment of the forums, most forums have gone down this route now because of pressure from other platforms that are free to use and you don't have to muck about with subs and the associated administration.Just food for thought long live the forum and MK You've put this suggestion forward several times now Paulif you want the forum to live long, then shifting the platform across to a board that has adverts on will (apart from looking crap in MY opinion) mean that we risk losing loads of members. By far the biggest kick in the bollocks the forum ever got was the crash which caused everyone to have to re-register again. If we combine the increased admin with a 'new' site full of ads then that potentially makes the place less attractive for many people, well myself anyway.I understand that you haven't been to MK (fine) also note that you don't have a SST (fine too, you're still very welcome to post here). No-one's asking for your money, but I don't understand why you're so passionate about trying to separate the forum from its biggest annual event. My only guess is because you haven't been to MK, then you would see how MK represents everything that's great about this community - not just on the internets but in real life. I strongly recommend that now the dates have been posted that you do whatever you can to attend, like I said before I can guarantee you a very warm welcome and a weekend seeing the best bikes this community has to offer Well you asked for suggestions and I give a couple.You've raised the point I don't have an SST again, if I pay for an SST and give the same opinion will you be any less annoyed, I doubt it. I might've chosen not to have one this year but I dare say I've still paid a fair few more than you and a few of the other people who are so keen to criticise my point of view.We'll have to agree to differ about how forums look that use advertising but I do take your point about the negative impact a forum going down can have.For me the forum is more important than MK, ultimately I'd like to see a way that both the forum and the MK event can survive and prosper.If I do make MK you can be sure I'll have paid my SST.
Quote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 05:59 PMQuote from: griff on February 12, 2016, 05:23 PMQuote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 04:50 PMThe forum could become free using advertising, they've become so advanced the ads hardly interfere with the enjoyment of the forums, most forums have gone down this route now because of pressure from other platforms that are free to use and you don't have to muck about with subs and the associated administration.Just food for thought long live the forum and MK You've put this suggestion forward several times now Paulif you want the forum to live long, then shifting the platform across to a board that has adverts on will (apart from looking crap in MY opinion) mean that we risk losing loads of members. By far the biggest kick in the bollocks the forum ever got was the crash which caused everyone to have to re-register again. If we combine the increased admin with a 'new' site full of ads then that potentially makes the place less attractive for many people, well myself anyway.I understand that you haven't been to MK (fine) also note that you don't have a SST (fine too, you're still very welcome to post here). No-one's asking for your money, but I don't understand why you're so passionate about trying to separate the forum from its biggest annual event. My only guess is because you haven't been to MK, then you would see how MK represents everything that's great about this community - not just on the internets but in real life. I strongly recommend that now the dates have been posted that you do whatever you can to attend, like I said before I can guarantee you a very warm welcome and a weekend seeing the best bikes this community has to offer Well you asked for suggestions and I give a couple.You've raised the point I don't have an SST again, if I pay for an SST and give the same opinion will you be any less annoyed, I doubt it. I might've chosen not to have one this year but I dare say I've still paid a fair few more than you and a few of the other people who are so keen to criticise my point of view.We'll have to agree to differ about how forums look that use advertising but I do take your point about the negative impact a forum going down can have.For me the forum is more important than MK, ultimately I'd like to see a way that both the forum and the MK event can survive and prosper.If I do make MK you can be sure I'll have paid my SST.You're in Ireland aren't you Paul??
Quote from: Retrodan72 on February 12, 2016, 06:15 PMQuote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 05:59 PMQuote from: griff on February 12, 2016, 05:23 PMQuote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 04:50 PMThe forum could become free using advertising, they've become so advanced the ads hardly interfere with the enjoyment of the forums, most forums have gone down this route now because of pressure from other platforms that are free to use and you don't have to muck about with subs and the associated administration.Just food for thought long live the forum and MK You've put this suggestion forward several times now Paulif you want the forum to live long, then shifting the platform across to a board that has adverts on will (apart from looking crap in MY opinion) mean that we risk losing loads of members. By far the biggest kick in the bollocks the forum ever got was the crash which caused everyone to have to re-register again. If we combine the increased admin with a 'new' site full of ads then that potentially makes the place less attractive for many people, well myself anyway.I understand that you haven't been to MK (fine) also note that you don't have a SST (fine too, you're still very welcome to post here). No-one's asking for your money, but I don't understand why you're so passionate about trying to separate the forum from its biggest annual event. My only guess is because you haven't been to MK, then you would see how MK represents everything that's great about this community - not just on the internets but in real life. I strongly recommend that now the dates have been posted that you do whatever you can to attend, like I said before I can guarantee you a very warm welcome and a weekend seeing the best bikes this community has to offer Well you asked for suggestions and I give a couple.You've raised the point I don't have an SST again, if I pay for an SST and give the same opinion will you be any less annoyed, I doubt it. I might've chosen not to have one this year but I dare say I've still paid a fair few more than you and a few of the other people who are so keen to criticise my point of view.We'll have to agree to differ about how forums look that use advertising but I do take your point about the negative impact a forum going down can have.For me the forum is more important than MK, ultimately I'd like to see a way that both the forum and the MK event can survive and prosper.If I do make MK you can be sure I'll have paid my SST.You're in Ireland aren't you Paul??Northern Ireland Dan
Quote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 06:18 PMQuote from: Retrodan72 on February 12, 2016, 06:15 PMQuote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 05:59 PMQuote from: griff on February 12, 2016, 05:23 PMQuote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 04:50 PMThe forum could become free using advertising, they've become so advanced the ads hardly interfere with the enjoyment of the forums, most forums have gone down this route now because of pressure from other platforms that are free to use and you don't have to muck about with subs and the associated administration.Just food for thought long live the forum and MK You've put this suggestion forward several times now Paulif you want the forum to live long, then shifting the platform across to a board that has adverts on will (apart from looking crap in MY opinion) mean that we risk losing loads of members. By far the biggest kick in the bollocks the forum ever got was the crash which caused everyone to have to re-register again. If we combine the increased admin with a 'new' site full of ads then that potentially makes the place less attractive for many people, well myself anyway.I understand that you haven't been to MK (fine) also note that you don't have a SST (fine too, you're still very welcome to post here). No-one's asking for your money, but I don't understand why you're so passionate about trying to separate the forum from its biggest annual event. My only guess is because you haven't been to MK, then you would see how MK represents everything that's great about this community - not just on the internets but in real life. I strongly recommend that now the dates have been posted that you do whatever you can to attend, like I said before I can guarantee you a very warm welcome and a weekend seeing the best bikes this community has to offer Well you asked for suggestions and I give a couple.You've raised the point I don't have an SST again, if I pay for an SST and give the same opinion will you be any less annoyed, I doubt it. I might've chosen not to have one this year but I dare say I've still paid a fair few more than you and a few of the other people who are so keen to criticise my point of view.We'll have to agree to differ about how forums look that use advertising but I do take your point about the negative impact a forum going down can have.For me the forum is more important than MK, ultimately I'd like to see a way that both the forum and the MK event can survive and prosper.If I do make MK you can be sure I'll have paid my SST.You're in Ireland aren't you Paul??Northern Ireland Dan Thought so, so quite unlikely you're going to make the trip to MK, so maybe it's resentment that you're £10 would go to help pay for an event you're probably not going to attend?? That's what it looks like?
Remove restrictions based on SST and open up the sales and wanted section, see if traffic increases...this itself will tell if it has worked or not.If people are happy to voluntarily pay an SST, you'll also see this when the time comes for them to renew their tag.The wristband is a great idea, what you don't want to do is create an 'us' and 'them' scenario at MK, one of the many things I picked up on when I was there was how many people heard abut it through the grapevine on the day. I appreciate having something that SST's can benefit from is a great idea to but try not to create something that makes visitors feel ostracized.Take MK back to basics if need-be
Just a quick note about the wristband thing , I reckon the best way to distribute them is to have a tent set up between say 10am and closing at 6pm just before the lake ride , for people to collect there wristbands if they are are a SST or buy one for a tenner if the're not .I know it would mean it being Manned all day , but all the mods and admin could do a couple of hours each to dish them out . Just push the fact big time that they have between 10 and 6 to pick them up , or they can fook off 👍🏼
Wristband or Hand Stamp is definitely a good idea. Hand stamp might avoid wristbands being shared around and avoid the postage issue but implementing it over the weekend might be tricky.
shifting the platform across to a board that has adverts on will (apart from looking crap in MY opinion) mean that we risk losing loads of members. By far the biggest kick in the bollocks the forum ever got was the crash which caused everyone to have to re-register again. If we combine the increased admin with a 'new' site full of ads then that potentially makes the place less attractive for many people, well myself anyway.
Quote from: griff on February 12, 2016, 05:23 PMshifting the platform across to a board that has adverts on will (apart from looking crap in MY opinion) mean that we risk losing loads of members. By far the biggest kick in the bollocks the forum ever got was the crash which caused everyone to have to re-register again. If we combine the increased admin with a 'new' site full of ads then that potentially makes the place less attractive for many people, well myself anyway.Just for information, The Bmxmuseum.com has had non invasive ads running on the site for a couple of years now. It is still as busy on there as it has ever been, and I have never heard or seen anyone complain about them.I'm sure Gary, the site owner, would be happy to advise on how it works, if you ask
Quote from: benno on February 12, 2016, 05:47 PMJust a quick note about the wristband thing , I reckon the best way to distribute them is to have a tent set up between say 10am and closing at 6pm just before the lake ride , for people to collect there wristbands if they are are a SST or buy one for a tenner if the're not .I know it would mean it being Manned all day , but all the mods and admin could do a couple of hours each to dish them out . Just push the fact big time that they have between 10 and 6 to pick them up , or they can fook off 👍🏼Simple answer is Mike , let JT, Gaz and myself distribute/sell them from JT's stand .... it is manned by one of us from 8.30am through until 5/6 . I have done it in the past with mugs, t shirts , decals etc etc This way it free's up you mods to party i mean get on with your hard work That's pending JT has a Stall this year and if you trust us with all your cash !!
Quote from: griff on February 12, 2016, 05:23 PMQuote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 04:50 PMThe forum could become free using advertising, they've become so advanced the ads hardly interfere with the enjoyment of the forums, most forums have gone down this route now because of pressure from other platforms that are free to use and you don't have to muck about with subs and the associated administration.Just food for thought long live the forum and MK Well you asked for suggestions and I give a couple.You've raised the point I don't have an SST again, if I pay for an SST and give the same opinion will you be any less annoyed, I doubt it. I might've chosen not to have one this year but I dare say I've still paid a fair few more than you and a few of the other people who are so keen to criticise my point of view.We'll have to agree to differ about how forums look that use advertising but I do take your point about the negative impact a forum going down can have.For me the forum is more important than MK, ultimately I'd like to see a way that both the forum and the MK event can survive and prosper.If I do make MK you can be sure I'll have paid my SST.I want annoyed by your comments, just struggling to understand why you're trying to push ads so hard and separate MK from the forumI certainly wasn't trying to give you a hard time about not having a tag (by the same token I'd appreciate you not making assumptions about how much I may have put in the Rad pot)As for the 'forum vs MK', they are as important as each other in my eyes - without either I think the other would struggle to survive tbh - look how far away it is & see how many people are already buzzing about it (not just here, but on the Rad FB group and other groups too) it is by far the best advert for the forum and the highlight of many of our calendars.I sincerely hope you & the rest of our members in NI make it over and have a fantastic weekend
Quote from: rodriguez on February 12, 2016, 04:50 PMThe forum could become free using advertising, they've become so advanced the ads hardly interfere with the enjoyment of the forums, most forums have gone down this route now because of pressure from other platforms that are free to use and you don't have to muck about with subs and the associated administration.Just food for thought long live the forum and MK Well you asked for suggestions and I give a couple.You've raised the point I don't have an SST again, if I pay for an SST and give the same opinion will you be any less annoyed, I doubt it. I might've chosen not to have one this year but I dare say I've still paid a fair few more than you and a few of the other people who are so keen to criticise my point of view.We'll have to agree to differ about how forums look that use advertising but I do take your point about the negative impact a forum going down can have.For me the forum is more important than MK, ultimately I'd like to see a way that both the forum and the MK event can survive and prosper.If I do make MK you can be sure I'll have paid my SST.
I want annoyed by your comments, just struggling to understand why you're trying to push ads so hard and separate MK from the forumI certainly wasn't trying to give you a hard time about not having a tag (by the same token I'd appreciate you not making assumptions about how much I may have put in the Rad pot)As for the 'forum vs MK', they are as important as each other in my eyes - without either I think the other would struggle to survive tbh - look how far away it is & see how many people are already buzzing about it (not just here, but on the Rad FB group and other groups too) it is by far the best advert for the forum and the highlight of many of our calendars.I sincerely hope you & the rest of our members in NI make it over and have a fantastic weekend