Forum Sales, Site Supporter Tags and how to fund MK....

[griff]

Since we've opened up the FB group to sales, it's worth having some discussion on what everyone thinks about SSTs and how we propose to keep this forum AND MK going.

Things to bear in mind...

We can't charge admission for MK
It takes more than a whipround to pay for it and needs to be organised well in advance (with funds available)

Appreciate any of your inputs, please bear in mind that no single option will keep everyone happy but it's always good to hear your ideas.

[Jono]

SST is the way if it isn't enough then that's due to its popularity , if more ablutions marquees etc then that's due to non members turning up for the freebie you can't charge but you can stop them using the dog and duck with wrist bands that will save a few hundred in freeloaders having free ale as I said last year they will learn from that lesson and next year pay for an SST and maybe even use the forum, win/win

[monkian]

*A volunteered % of sales sold on the FB Group to go to the Rad Pot
*Crowdfunding
*Rad Forum Shop or T's designed in collaboration with Dave at B73's with % of sales to the Rad Pot.
*Rebrand MK to put Radbmx UK first in people's minds & explore new branded products.
*Fundraiser rides.
*General fundraising events: BBQ's, Swap-Meets, Car-Boots etc.

I'm sure there's more...

[stuntmaster]

funny really as most of the people who sell on here are the same every week anyway as not been on the for sale section for ages and still the same people selling stuff 

[chubby]

Happy to pay my sst as it's great value over the year. Obviously the tighter people will moan that there's no point in buying one anymore, just remember it not only goes towards MK but the running of the site aswell.

Jono's idea about the wrist bands is a good one, suppose charging  50p/pound a can to non sst's would Involve licensing problems then

[Chapperz]

Agree with Jono, and not sure of the reasons why you cant charge for MK.
But if you can't charge for general admission then camping could be £?? per night (toilet facilities dont pay for themselves), access to the sales tents area £?? Dog and Duck wrist band£?? Hog roast £??. I think we need to ensure that a site supporter tag / status is seen as a benefit, and to those that want to just turn up they shouldn't expect a freebie.
Administering this could be a nightmare i know, but i'd like to see MK live long, even if the site supporters tag price increased a little.
The trouble with facebook sales is they can be on many pages & on the forum, dont get me wrong, i use facebook for buying stuff because it is easy, but saying a percentage of sales total or some other method to direct funds to RADBMX means people will use other pages.

[Jono]

Agree with Jono, and not sure of the reasons why you cant charge for MK.
But if you can't charge for general admission then camping could be £?? per night (toilet facilities dont pay for themselves), access to the sales tents area £?? Dog and Duck wrist band£?? Hog roast £??. I think we need to ensure that a site supporter tag / status is seen as a benefit, and to those that want to just turn up they shouldn't expect a freebie.
Administering this could be a nightmare i know, but i'd like to see MK live long, even if the site supporters tag price increased a little.
The trouble with facebook sales is they can be on many pages & on the forum, dont get me wrong, i use facebook for buying stuff because it is easy, but saying a percentage of sales total or some other method to direct funds to RADBMX means people will use other pages.

Council land so open to anyone, that stops charging going, selling beer is licensing issue as chubby says only way round is buying wristband, entitling you entry to beer tent and refreshments maybe also allowed to enter bikes into show too, non SST can't enter comp? Gotta make it worth their while joining it's not bribery it's courtesy

[BMX1973]

I like some of the idea's put forward.  Would like to see the Sales section for the RAD BMX site only. This would help bring traffic to the site. 

 

[Retrodan72]

I like some of the idea's put forward.  Would like to see the Sales section for the RAD BMX site only. This would help bring traffic to the site. 

 

Sales are flying in left, right and centre over on the FB page tonight, non SST holders snapping up all that NOS loveliness. 

[Dark Diggler]

If you cant charge, you can have donation buckets at a gate that everyone has to pass through to get in, i dont think anyone would walk/drive in without donating, putting craig on the door with a really scary tan and some tight speedo's should ensure this.
No good for cleared funds before the event but great if you can use SST for supplier deposits and pay the balance at the end of the event

There you are solved.

[oldschoolace]

Policing entry to MK would be impossible. We could use a wristband or lanyard thingy which could be posted out when you pay for you sst and flash it in the d&d to get you free ale but even this is difficult and probably unnecessarily complicated. I reckon more people buy an sst then ever use the for sale section so maybe the two are not as interlinked as they once were.
Sponsorship would be a possibility but from bitter experience it can taint the independence of something like MK. It really needs to be for the people by the people. The problem is most regular non supporters are happy to turn up and have their slice of pie but rarely put their hand in their pocket to contribute.
we need to think of a benefit to having an sst tag that doesn't have a knock on cost
something like a raffle of sst members to win a complete or frameset from Alans or something might work. If each Sst had a number, so if I was the 26th tag buyer my number would be 0026, then besides the joy of contributing to the site and MK I also stand the chance of winning something.

[BMX1973]

I suppose I'm biased as don't use Facebook. But this is a good reason why to have the For Sales for the  website only.  Have you a link I wouldn't even know how to find the Facebook page. 

I like some of the idea's put forward.  Would like to see the Sales section for the RAD BMX site only. This would help bring traffic to the site. 

 

Sales are flying in left, right and centre over on the FB page tonight, non SST holders snapping up all that NOS loveliness. 

[dancetothedrummersbeat]

Clint, I like that idea of your SST being assigned a number and being entered into a raffle or something 

[Jono]

Put up a poll SST only, let them decide if FB should only be sales if linked to sale on here

[Retrodan72]

Put up a poll SST only, let them decide if FB should only be sales if linked to sale on here

Jono, there already is, at the top of this thread. 

[pickle]

What's the date? 

[skki3330]

As said above really SST holders should have benefits like the dog & duck free ale and the free hog roast, putting bikes in the show n shine also and this will i know need policing so itsprob ano go SST holders who want to camp should be given the helipad and the boundry as first choice freeloaders should be kept to the field.

I think we do need to do more like pick a charity for the year and do things to raise money
Raffles for completes maybe on facebook by anyone not just SST should give 10% of earnings.

Last year we had Mr Ruffles join us at MK he was signing loads of stuff we could have used that as a chance to earn some money for a charity £1 a sig if Andy was ok with that

[Gnarlyscoots]

Where else could you go in the UK, turn up, park up, eat for free and get legless for free, all off the backs of a few people who paid for it?   Oh yeah, nowhere. I have never been to MK yet, and rarely drink, but after MK, all you read everywhere is how drunk people got........for free. And you know they are not site tag holders. Such a shame that so many see MK as just a free pi$$ up 


How about you make car stickers for anyone camping on site. Number them and sell them here to SST holders only. Display it on your windscreen when turning up, thus allowing you to park near the helipad. Anyone not displaying one will have to park elsewhere.

Also, as others have said, get wristbands made with a number and SST holder stamped on them, and charge for the price of the band and postage. Only sell them to confirmed tag holders.

[Retrodan72]

How about you make car stickers for anyone camping on site. Number them and sell them here to SST holders only. Display it on your windscreen when turning up, thus allowing you to park near the helipad. Anyone not displaying one will have to park elsewhere.

You would still need to police that, and there are some hard-faced fookers in this hobby, that don't give a shiny shite about this forum, who'll turn up whenever they want, park up and pitch wherever they want, eat some pig, drink free beer, then fook off and slag the forum off for 363 days of the year, for being 'clicky' or some bollux like that.

[Gnarlyscoots]

How about you make car stickers for anyone camping on site. Number them and sell them here to SST holders only. Display it on your windscreen when turning up, thus allowing you to park near the helipad. Anyone not displaying one will have to park elsewhere.

You would still need to police that, and there are some hard-faced fookers in this hobby, that don't give a shiny shite about this forum, who'll turn up whenever they want, park up and pitch wherever they want, eat some pig, drink free beer, then fook off and slag the forum off for 363 days of the year, for being 'clicky' or some bollux like that.

I wouldn't mind being on the gate with a couple of other volunteers and escorting people to assigned parking plots, if that helps.

And there will be leeches regardless Dan. So if you don't show your wristband, you don't get to eat or drink for free, full stop.

The event is getting bigger, and volunteers will eventually be required to assist in policing the event before it gets out of hand.

I personally don't agree with people get shitfaced with kids around anyway. They may not be physically in sight, but they have to hear it all. I am not a party pooper, but I would never get that way with my kids about.

[Jono]

Put up a poll SST only, let them decide if FB should only be sales if linked to sale on here

Jono, there already is, at the top of this thread. 

I'm on the piss  not like you ladies watch heartbeat or whatever the fook you gotta watch with the wives lol

[stevesredvxr]

Wristband / lanyard idea sounds great. Flash this to get your free beer, pig roast etc etc. No band....then fook off.

[NORTY40]

Im all for the wristband idea , quick google search

Printed silicone wristbands   http://adband.com/collections/wristbands/products/silicone-wristbands



QTY 500 £0.32ea
QTY 1000 £0.26ea

Vinyl ones are about half the price of silicone



 

They also make for a good keepsake from the weekend if that type of thing floats your boat .

[dancetothedrummersbeat]

Good idea. I won't take mine off, so if MK continues for years i'll have an arm full. I know we can't 'sell' tickets and policing the parking would be a pain, but for the hog roast and dog & duck it would be easy. No wristband, no 'free' food/drink. Lets be honest, if people can find out about MK, make the trip there for the weekend with all their stuff, they must have heard quite a bit about beforehand from whatever source. Ignorance on the SST and related topics is very hard to believe. Purely people taking the mick and freeloading.

[kalex]

Jono's idea makes perfect sense to me, and I buy the SST with no intention of ever going to MK.

I've never been as it's always on our family holiday