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Hutch found in France ?????
« on: September 03, 2006, 11:18 PM »
Hi guys , its your e bay trawler here, and I found  a HUTCH ON E BAY France !! its easy to look up and to use,and their are the occational bike that comes up in France, they seem to not throw away old bikes.

Check out the link, and tell me if you think its a good price ( even after importing??)

http://cgi.ebay.fr/HUTCH-BMX-Vintage-Old-scholl_W0QQitemZ300022907736QQihZ020QQcategoryZ106736QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
« Last Edit: September 04, 2006, 10:48 PM by hotplate »

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2006, 11:24 PM »
i see hes up dated the pics from when i first see it .. wanted EUR 500 to end early
« Last Edit: September 03, 2006, 11:30 PM by pkradman »

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2006, 11:24 PM »
It's not a hutch, by the looks of things it's a zeronine

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2006, 11:26 PM »
cranks n pedals gotta be woth that at least ;o)

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2006, 01:09 PM »
Kev,

you're always over the channel you're almost French yourself  ! you could collect it, then give me the Crank n Pedals !!  :LolLolLolLol:

Never seen a Hutch with the serial no on the headtube though, can't really tell what it is ? V interesting though !  :daumenhoch:

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MONKEYBISCUITS RIP !!

FORDY

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2006, 06:18 PM »
the belgies love their BMX too

check out www.ebay.be


JJR

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2006, 06:32 PM »
the belgies love their BMX too

check out www.ebay.be


Pleaseeeeeeeeeee don't search here for BMX...................

dj_benice

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2006, 07:00 PM »
only if you promise to stop buyin from the uk n us JJR  >:D

daz bmx it!

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2006, 10:02 PM »
Wow! it has a lay-forward seat post! :shocked:

jeff spicoli

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2006, 10:09 PM »
Whats going on with the pinch bolt on the crank ? My redline cranks had a allen key pinch bolt that sat snug in the crankarm .

dj_benice

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2006, 10:21 PM »
tis a genuine non NOS bolt bodge  ;)

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2006, 01:24 PM »
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It's not a hutch, by the looks of things it's a zeronine

Or it could be an MCS

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2006, 04:39 PM »
it's an mcs for sure, got a serial on the headtube. not an old one either
ding dong

rockinlumberjack

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2006, 10:14 AM »
Hello all !
Sorry, I come too late in this post. I've seen this item and I've contacted the seller to tell him that it wasn't a Hutch. I told him first that it was an MCS Magnum, or a Cycle Craft, or maybe a Zeronine. I've told him that Hutch have all looptails and not serial numbers in the headtube. I told him that the bolt of the right crankarm wasn't genuine and that the seatpost was not in the right direction. He has answered to me that he has bought it 20 years ago as a Hutch by a good shop in France that I knew at that time.
It was suspect. After better sight, I have confirmed him that that was an MCS Magnum. But he didn't changed his description, only near the end of the auction. I've seen in his last buy in e-bay that he has bought Hutch frame and fork decals. The bike wasn't bad, but it wasn't a Hutch. I've told that to a potential buyer and his answer was that he wants the bike only for the RL crank and Hutch pedals. I'm not a policeman (I'm just rocking'lumberjack !!!), but I don't like when a seller is talking false and he know he's talking false. A lot of french old school sellers aren't connoisseur. They just want to sell their stuff at high prices.
It's flagrant to me, because I'm a Swiss and french is my speach. Best regards

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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2006, 10:22 AM »
keep up the police work lumberjack

Rich :)

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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2006, 02:01 PM »
Je m'appelle Philip

J'habite en Angleterre

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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2006, 04:08 PM »
A lot of french old school sellers aren't connoisseur. They just want to sell their stuff at high prices.
It's flagrant to me, because I'm a Swiss and french is my speach. Best regards

Ok, there's not such interest in old BMX in France than in UK.
But some guys know their stuff don't worry ! ;)

This Hutch seller is just dishonest, he tought he 'd reach big $$$$ with is kinda "Hutch" but we're not on eBay US, we're in France (altough I guess the buyer is an UK guy).
I got in contact with him for an offer about the 2nd Araya wheelset, ...a few emails, I made a correct offer; never even get an answer. :tickedoff:
And I bet the RL crank arm is pretty f****d up with such a bolt in it  :uglystupid2:

And yes I am french !

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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2006, 11:14 PM »
Hello Philip (Philippe ?), Hello Double Chevron !
Concernant mon constat, je n'en démords pas : je ne vouais blesser personne, mais il est vrai que j'ai moi-même fait les frais, à plusieurs reprises, de l'incompétence de certains de vos compatriotes. Cependant, je ne mets pas tout le monde dans le même panier : j'ai écrit " a lot" et non "all". J'ai acheté sur e-bay fr récemment un cadre Mongoose looptail que je prenais pour un Pro Class, voire un Rupe Signature. Le vendeur indiquait dans le titre qu'il s'agissait d'un Supergoose NOS (neuf, provenant d'un ancien stock s'entend), avec des stickers de Mongoose F4. Je lui ai indiqué qu'il ne s'agissait pas d'un Supergoose (à cause du numéro de série et des diamètres des tubes inférieur et supérieur), ce à quoi il me rétorque qu'il s'agit d'un "F4 all cr-mo". Je lui réponds qu'il s'agit d'un cadre looptail de 84. En conséquence, il ne pouvait être question d'un F4. J'ai acheté le cadre et en fait de NOS, le cadre cachait, sous les faux stickers, plein de cabos, rayures et j'en passe. Excusez-moi si j'ai pu vous offenser, mais il suffit d'aller sur e-bay fr pour confirmer ce que je dit. Je ne me considère pas pour un expert pour autant, mais je pense qu'il y trop de vendeurs soi-disant Old School peu scrupuleux et très mal documentés en France.
Amicalement.
PS : to answer to Waxintaxin : yes, give me a silver star of sheriff and a mandate and I will make order with my rocking chainsaw and guitar !!!  Cheers
Romain "Rocking'lumberjack" Nusbaumer, Suisse.

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2006, 05:52 AM »
en France y'a plein de matos et beaucoup de gars qui s'y connaissent tres bien, ebay est un vivier de mercantiles en tout genre, leur seul but  etant de faire du profit, peu importe la maniere ce qu'ils veulent c'est l'argent, mais depuis le temps que je frequente le milieu j'ai pu le constaté dans bien d'autres pays!! :)

a qui as tu acheté ton mongoose? skylaurent non?

le gars du Mcs je lui ai ecrit des le debut, il m'a aussi dit qu'il l'avait acheté comme un hutch, vendu comme tel par Pierre Ognier ( magasin emblematique des 80's en region parisienne ) lol, quoiqu'il en soit il a repondu gentillement a toutes questions et tres rapidement..
« Last Edit: September 18, 2006, 06:11 AM by frdavid »

rockinlumberjack

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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2006, 10:17 AM »
Hello FR !
Tout à fait daccord avec toi en ce qui concerne e-bay, les marchands malhonnêtes ne sont pas l'apanage de la France. Cependant, en parlant du vendeur du MCS, bien que m'ayant répondu également gentiment, (il ne pouvait pas être hautain étant donnné qu'il me demandait des renseignements et qu'apperemment il n'y connaissait pas grand chose), il ne semblait pas si innocent que cela : il m'a dit que le magasin en question était les Cycles Pierre Ognier, à Chelles. Je lui ai répondu que les Cycles Ognier se trouvaient à St-Maur à l'époque et que c'était les Cycles Jean-Claude qui se trouvaient à Chelles. Il m'a rendu un "Tu as raison, ce sont les Cycles Jean-Claude" tout à fait peu convaincant. Autre signe inquiétant :
comme je l'ai expliqué dans un précédent mail, il avait acheté sur e-bay auparavant un kit d'autocollants cadre et fourche
Hutch. Comme je le lui ai indiqué, le guidon ne pouvait pas être un, je cite "Kiiuara Hutch". De plus, il m'a demandé quelle était la valeur de son vélo, une fois lesrenseignements donnés, il ne m'a jamais remercié et n'a jamais changé le descriptif de son vélo. Je sais que quand on vend sur e-bay, le but principal n'est pas de faire plaisir, mais de faire de l'argent et c'est normal. Seulement, un minimum de connaissances sont nécessaires, ce qui je le répète encore une fois, manque quelque peu chez bien des vendeurs français. Je ne comprends pas pourquoi toi et d'autres membres français vous sentez si blessés : c'est un constat qui est réaliste et il n'est pas question ici ni de chauvinisme ni de défendre sa patrie. E-bay reste malgré tout un des meilleurs moyens de se fournir en OS. Pour le Mongoose, c'était bien Sky Laurent, mais en plus d'un cadre endommagé, il m'a vendu un guidon SM coupé aux 2 extrémités, de travers et ne mesurant plus que 60 centimètres, ce qui n'était pas visible sur la photo et une potence TNT avec expendeur trop court et dont la pièce qui bloque la potence n'est pas alignée avec le plongeur et peut donc endommager le tube de la fourche. Moi, lorsque je vends quelque chose, j'indique les défauts et les pièces n'étant pas d'origine, c'est un minimum. J'ai acheté en Angleterre, aux USA, en Allemagne et en Suisse et n'ai jamais eu de problèmes. Maintenant, je ne suis pas de mauvaise foi et si tu connais des marchands "réglos" de matériel Old School en France, je serais le premier heureux d'avoir leur adresse. Salutations et merci.

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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2006, 10:26 AM »
Hello Philip (Philippe?), Hello Double Rafter!
Concerning my official report, me not in démords not: I dedicated hurt nobody, but it is true that I made expenses, again and again, of the incompetence of some of your compatriots myself. However, I do not put everybody in the same basket: I wrote " has lot " and not "All". I bought on e-bay fr newly a frame Mongoose looptail which I took for Pro Class, or even Rupe Signature. The seller pointed out in the title announce that it was about Supergoose NOS (new, coming from an ancient supply agree), with stickers of Mongoose F4. I pointed out to to him that it was not about Supergoose (because of the number of series and the diameters of the lower and the upper tubes), in what he retorts me that it is about one " F4 all cr-Mb ". I answer him that it is about a looptail frame of 84. Consequently, it could not be a matter of F4. I bought the frame and by way of NOS, the frame hid, under falsehoods sstickers, full of cabos, streaks and I cross it. Excuse me if I could havefend you, but it is enough to go on e-bay fr to confirm what I say. I am not considered for an expert therefore, but I think that it there too many so-called sellers Old School not very conscientious and very badly researched in France.
Amicably.
PS: to answer to Waxintaxin: yes, give has me silver star of sheriff and has delegate I will and to make order with my rocking chainsaw and guitar!!! Cheers
Roman " Rocking' l
I want to touch ORB

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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2006, 10:28 AM »
in France has it full of matos and many guys who know each other tres there definitely, ebay a game preserve of commercial in any type, the their only purpose etant is to make use, it doesn't much matter the maniere what they want it is silver, but since the time when I frequente middle I could the determining in many other countries!!

has who hushed up bought about your mongoose? skylaurent not?

the guy of the Mcs I have him ecrit of it debut, he also said to me that he had bought it as a hutch, sold as such by Pierr



ahh, i cant be arsed doing the rest.


go to free tranlation.com if you want to know how it ends.
I want to touch ORB

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2006, 01:25 PM »
LOL

merde ill Plue    is about all i know

Rich

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Re: Hutch found in France ?????
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2006, 01:35 PM »
Shit, it rains (???). By us in Switzerland it rains too now. As I'm a lumberjack, I do work when it rains. But I'm now wounded in my back and it permits me to be more time in this great site and to show the rain falling down.
Regards.

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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2006, 02:28 PM »
Lumber,
dans ton premier post, j'avais cru déceler un peu de "malice angalise" vis-à-vis des Français  ;)
Visiblement, ce n'est pas le cas.
Désolé si ma réaction t'as semblé excessive!
Essaie ça pour un vendeur sympa : http://search.ebay.fr/_W0QQsassZseracingQ5ffr
Toi qui est francophone, passes-tu de temps à autres sur le forum des 23 ?
David on se connait, c'est things_c_d mon pseudo la-bas.



Sorry guys for hijacking this forum !
But reading merde ill plu is so nice   :LolLolLolLol:
Congrats for your french skills, Waxintaxin !

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