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Offline meisterjim

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1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« on: February 06, 2015, 10:15 AM »

There are only 10 frames worldwide, Kuwahara tange build this frames for the german market, the BMX company in Germany Hajos Frankfurt got 10 frames in 1990 then in germany the BMX scene chash and the Hajos company close the BMX store, 20 jears later one of my friends Buy all the old BMX stuff from Hajos smile one container full with BMX parts, Bikes, this is why i get this exrtem RARE frames :-)








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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2015, 10:21 AM »
that's tidy :coolsmiley:
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2015, 09:11 PM »
Looks very nice does that  :daumenhoch:

I think it should be in the Mid School section though, buddy  :)
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2015, 10:01 PM »
Looks great   :coolsmiley:

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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2015, 10:04 PM »
Wow, nice. Looks like an S&M dirtbike with a higher bb shell.

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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2015, 10:56 PM »
not usually a fan of whitewalls and the 'coloured bits', but on this one :shocked: ......good pics ^"^

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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2015, 08:31 AM »
That looks great!
Any other details, is it Pro XL size?

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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2015, 10:06 AM »
Wow, nice. Looks like an S&M dirtbike with a higher bb shell.
Or a freeagent limo :daumenhoch:
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2015, 12:11 PM »
Looks like a re stickered Holmes or Limo
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2015, 06:17 PM »
thats lovely  8) but ... not into the tyres ... I'd rather see some knobbly tires on a racer  :angel:
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2015, 06:37 PM »
Nice - would like to see the serial number - any piccies of it  :daumenhoch:

Like said above - looks like a B&E made frame?
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2015, 11:47 AM »
That's nice.  :)
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2015, 01:03 PM »
Are there any Kuwahara stampings or serial number?

The dropouts, BB and headset look very much like my Kuwahara Champion:






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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2015, 02:55 PM »
If you look at the rear dropout there are 3 letters and 4 numbers, just like an S&M, the dropouts are really thick too. It does look a lot like a Holmes.
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2015, 03:04 PM »
If you look at the rear dropout there are 3 letters and 4 numbers, just like an S&M, the dropouts are really thick too. It does look a lot like a Holmes.

Totally agree me old fister. Double drops, got that little 'kink in' on the drops between the seat and chain stays.  Would like a piccy of the drops on the forks as well. Looks like a Holmes/DB from around 91-94.
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2015, 03:04 PM »
It does really look like a non brake mount mk3 holmes which is quite rare in itself

Post a pic of the serial number :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2015, 07:27 PM »
Apparently the serial number is HHX2009

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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2015, 07:32 PM »
Apparently the serial number is HHX2009

Betcha it's a B&E made frame  :daumenhoch:
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2015, 05:23 PM »
So this is a Holmes and not a prototype kuwi? I'm confused. Does that mean the Haro prototype from habanero, or what every it is, is actually a sausage

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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2015, 06:15 PM »
I think J it's got massive similarities to Holmes's, early Homeless bikes and a few others because it's actually B&E made (welded up in the B&E factory) in the US, not Tange made. B&E made frames for a load of early Mid companies that didn't have in-house frame building (little dull fact - S&M didn't start making frames in-house till 2003.....).

The similarities to B&E made frames are: headtube and bottom bracket tube, dropouts are identical in shape and they're double plate, seat-stay bridge same in shape and double-plate, the big old giveaway is though the serials - they're identical to all the B&E made ones - so a Holmes will be HXL 0000, a B&E made Dirt Bike will be SMD 0000, the B&E Badd & Co's are BPL 0000 and so on.

Still an ace frame though  :daumenhoch:
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2015, 07:04 PM »
'Scuse my ignorance....but what does B&E stand for?

And who were/are they?

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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2015, 07:19 PM »
'Scuse my ignorance....but what does B&E stand for?

And who were/are they?

B&E stands for Bert & Ernie

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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2015, 07:22 PM »
'Scuse my ignorance....but what does B&E stand for?

And who were/are they?

They are a fabrication company based in California - they built a crap load of early 90's frames for companies that didn't have in-house fabrication facilities or for companies that had a high demand and couldn't keep up with production so farmed out manufacture to B&E - B&E started up about near on 30 years ago.

They've made frames for:

S&M
Homeless
Badd & Co
Brackens
Hyper
White Bear
And allegedly Revcore and a few more at one point n'all  :daumenhoch:
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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2015, 07:41 PM »
Just googled 'em, seems like they still do frames, forks and bars  :daumenhoch:

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Re: 1990 Kuwahara XL Race bike Prototype
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2015, 09:37 AM »

Hey friends,

Its 100% kuwahara, the serial number is HHX2009, the HH is for HARTWIG HOFHERR Hajos in  germany

http://kuwahara-laserlite.de/11.html

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