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Thanks People,got to say that despite yesterdays sensible comments about not building an old school bike, you do see some frames and things for sale and the heart says "do it" Some of the bits around seem pretty good value, I am not too worried about making an original original bike but would like one that is period, the thing is we were modding these bikes before they even left the shop then changed bits all the time. I think I had different grips and things when mine was new, then over the years swapped bars, stems, pedals, pads stickers and all the rest.We'd meet down at the track I'd say I like your cranks, he'd say I like yours and before long the swap was done. Never a thought that we might be forever bodging something that in the future might be quite valuable..So yeah, maybe I will fiddle about to build an old school racer, but it'll be rad not original, like they all were in the 80s. What we need to do is get the race series really going then fence sitters like me would get a move on Good forum, rad on!!!