How can you tell the difference between ...............................

[BMX1973]

How can you tell the difference between ...............................
.................... original 80s Landing Gear and the reissue LGs that Alans BMX were selling a few years back?   

Think reissues were only available in Chrome. 

[griff]

quote from Brian Hays...

'The protos for Landing Gear started in 1979. They were released in 1980. For a very short time, there were no holes in the dropouts. They soon went to three holes in the dropouts through 1985 which encompasses all the unstamped 20" and the vertical stamped 20". In 86, SE went to a horizontal stamp, two holes and a much thicker dropout. All the 20" forks remained this way into the late 90's. When SE reappeared with the 2003 line, the 20" forks had no holes in them again BUT they still used the std horizontal stamp. Since then SE has used both the 2 hole and solid dropouts on 20" forks. '

[fischflo]

first of all i believe the alans reissues were(/are?) the same as the prokchop reissues from 2010, and that both of these are stamped and have 4mm drops. the og LGs after 81/82 had about 3mm drops (1/8"; early landing gears even thinner).

edit:
compare:
http://www.alansbmx.com/5962/products/se_racing_landing_gear_1_inch_threaded_forks.aspx
http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/5522

identcal pics (sic)         3 holers, both of em

[fischflo]

i meant planet BMX, not prokchop

[BMX1973]

Thanks for the replies chaps. 

So just to clarify all reissue would all be stamped SE in horizontal? 

So would these be reissue? 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Old-School-BMX-SE-Racing-Landing-Gear-1-Chrome-Forks-Skyway-Haro-PK-Ripper-/281493558289?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item418a52d411

[fischflo]

i'm guessing , but i'd say no, as BRIAN HAYS says:
"In 94 or so they went to the 1 1/8" threadless design"

[BMX1973]

So they are genuine 86 forks? 

[58 delray]

something doesnt look right about them to me, the dropouts look too thick for a start....

[griff]

So they are genuine 86 forks? 

I'd say 86 up to late 90s going on what Brian posted

2 holes, thick dropouts...

Or maybe they are much more recent!

[58 delray]

just figured out what looks wrong, the dropout looks too low on the leg if you know what i mean, i have a few genuine sets at home, will get comparison pics for you tomorrow 

[BMX1973]

Cheers

just figured out what looks wrong, the dropout looks too low on the leg if you know what i mean, i have a few genuine sets at home, will get comparison pics for you tomorrow 

[fischflo]

some more "86ers"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-SE-Racing-531-Reynolds-Quadangle-BMX-Landing-Gear-Forks-US-made-EXCELLENT-/161442750302?pt=US_Cranksets&hash=item2596bcdf5e&nma=true&si=7Fe%252FAMM8Xm3RSSTDYnhqUFO8KaM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=586127

and if cyclepsych0 ere is right about this thick dropped forks being "original, U.S.-made, Landing Gears. Made from '95 - '99..cool", then i could imagine a set of 86-94ers to have drops as thick as the ones on the ebay set you posted, too. (edit: the missing link http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=448567  )

end of guesses, time for the forked folks to errm ....confirm

[BMX1973]

Thanks 

some more "86ers"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-SE-Racing-531-Reynolds-Quadangle-BMX-Landing-Gear-Forks-US-made-EXCELLENT-/161442750302?pt=US_Cranksets&hash=item2596bcdf5e&nma=true&si=7Fe%252FAMM8Xm3RSSTDYnhqUFO8KaM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=586127

and if cyclepsych0 ere is right about this thick dropped forks being "original, U.S.-made, Landing Gears. Made from '95 - '99..cool", then i could imagine a set of 86-94ers to have drops as thick as the ones on the ebay set you posted, too.

end of guesses, time for the forked folks to errm ....confirm