Johnny chopper

[Bornintheusa]

I didn't go out and get a Ferrari made to sell because they are rare and expensive. 

[NORTY40]

Yeah, but I highly doubt he will own it for the next 5years, much less 10 or 15. It's possible I guess

Totally understand were your coming from and yes it is a potential concern in the future , all i know is that Jono would never pass it on as something it isn't .

If the new owner does well shame on him  , it's cnuts like that that need kicking out of this hobby .

Ali is a good egg (don't tell him that cause I tell him that he is a cnut  ) and we have absolutely no problem with him anything remotely crap.

It really is the next couple of owners that may start problems, selling it on to unsuspecting victims.  However a massive chunk of blame needs to go to the man who built this frame, great frame and all that but did it (and its twin) really need to be made in the first place?

Totally agree Sean   

Let's hope Ali never sells it   

[Jono]

Yeah, but I highly doubt he will own it for the next 5years, much less 10 or 15. It's possible I guess

Totally understand were your coming from and yes it is a potential concern in the future , all i know is that Jono would never pass it on as something it isn't .

If the new owner does well shame on him  , it's cnuts like that that need kicking out of this hobby .

Ali is a good egg (don't tell him that cause I tell him that he is a cnut  ) and we have absolutely no problem with him anything remotely crap.

It really is the next couple of owners that may start problems, selling it on to unsuspecting victims.  However a massive chunk of blame needs to go to the man who built this frame, great frame and all that but did it (and its twin) really need to be made in the first place?

It is a good point n to be honest not one I'd thought of about someone in the future trying to pass it off as og all I can do is be honest with you all and as you say this build will be documented on here for eternity as a rep build. i don't think it's that big a problem I very much doubt there are any more of the og out there so anybody trying to pass it off as such will be found out very quickly I'm intending building a stu thomsen replica and no doubt some will be holding me by the bollox as I try to get parts, am already talking to ash to get advice on og parts all of which are apparently hard to find n most of which he has !!!! 

[Jono]

N it's all your faults my initial post was asking as I was considering getting it, all positive comments , till I hand over the money now!!!!!!! Shit hits the fan lol

[NORTY40]

N it's all your faults my initial post was asking as I was considering getting it, all positive comments , till I hand over the money now!!!!!!! Shit hits the fan lol

 

Don't worry about it Ali , just get it built and out on the rides next summer   

[rodriguez]

Well at least these are out in the open unlike other fakes and this gives potential purchasers even down the line a head start because everybody knows they are out there.

IMO you would be able to tell one of these without stamping, danger would lie in a long distance purchase which relies on a sellers integrity and I for one wouldn't be paying the sort of money one of these would command without seeing it in person.

If someone does actually buy a frame like this without any provenance then they are a fool and as the old saying goes "a fool and their money are easily parted", caveat emptor, happens in any hobby where people collect things and the items are valuable.

If you ever do sell Jono if a fella with a foreign sounding name arrives in a camper let everybody know. 

[Jono]

  foreign sounding fella with a camper? .... But no probs 

[Monk_Wally_Honk]

The maker should place a microchip inside one of the tubes, easy enough to weld into place and cheap to buy.

You have the manufacturer, date, etc etc.

Whoever buys it can take it down the vets to verify it for a tiny fee.

Would cost peanuts in the scheme of things.

[Jono]

these are the only 2 images i can find thinking about recreating the tan version unless anyone has images of other versions need pl-1 clamp, addick chainring n spider, takagi mx crank looks like gold stem (joff u tit) thats just for starters theres a pl-1 clamp on ebay at moment he wants 300 dollars so if thats how things are gunna b it might get expensive

[NORTY40]

these are the only 2 images i can find thinking about recreating the tan version unless anyone has images of other versions need pl-1 clamp, addick chainring n spider, takagi mx crank looks like gold stem (joff u tit) thats just for starters theres a pl-1 clamp on ebay at moment he wants 300 dollars so if thats how things are gunna b it might get expensive

    Sorry Jono    I have said many times to you not to part with anything as you always end up needing it  . It is now has pride of place on my Team goose   

On the plus side , Carl might have the addicks spider ... he defo had one a while back and im pretty sure he hasn't used it on a build  both myself and Carl have addicks chainrings but they are Red   

[Jono]

could ring be dyed joff?

[NORTY40]

could ring be dyed joff?

Im not too sure , never done one .  Could do with finding out what they are made of , if they are nylon they should dye    I'll take a look at my Red one .

[Jono]

just got a nos yellow one u got any black rit left

[kungfunky]

these are the only 2 images i can find thinking about recreating the tan version unless anyone has images of other versions need pl-1 clamp, addick chainring n spider, takagi mx crank looks like gold stem (joff u tit) thats just for starters theres a pl-1 clamp on ebay at moment he wants 300 dollars so if thats how things are gunna b it might get expensive

    Sorry Jono    I have said many times to you not to part with anything as you always end up needing it  . It is now has pride of place on my Team goose   

On the plus side , Carl might have the addicks spider ... he defo had one a while back and im pretty sure he hasn't used it on a build  both myself and Carl have addicks chainrings but they are Red 

I now have that spider.

[kungfunky]

The Tan bike has been replicated using a loopy Quad.

[NORTY40]

just got a nos yellow one u got any black rit left

I haven't at the mo mate , I used my last 2 packs trying to dye some A'me grips for me and Gaz (poolysherrif) just before MK .  They didn't take too well 

I can give it a go though Jono if your not confident doing it 

[kungfunky]

I wonder which frame these were copied from are there were a few different styles, main difference was some had a plate between the down tubes in front of the bb some had a hole some didn't others had no plate plus the drops were in different positions.

[griff]

now if someone can just find a matching outfit for Jono to borrow for the photo shoot......!

[bigfatolly]

I don't see anything wrong in building the Stu Rep,with oldschool parts.
End of the day he will probably never own a real one so this is his best bet.
No different than someone who wants a Porsche buying a Chesil Speedster.
His bike,his money,his life.

[kungfunky]

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[dancetothedrummersbeat]

I'm in america at the moment, and just bought a load of black rit dye. Can you wait 2 weeks before giving it a go, and i'll sort you out (no charge). Joff, i'll be asking for your advice too as i need to re-dye a shotgun seat and some brake cables. I'll supply the dye if you can lend your knowledge?

[Jono]

sounds great andy cheers and i was always gunna give it for u to do joff anyway

[dancetothedrummersbeat]

Nice one Jono - i'll be in touch when I get back in 2 weeks

[Jono]

now if someone can just find a matching outfit for Jono to borrow for the photo shoot......!

I'd already thought of it haha

[pickle]

fook all that!  get some 990 lugs welded on the coont and 14mm dropouts!     then paint it sparkly orange and pink