PRO NECK STEM... REAL OR FAKE????

[dwain dibbly]

just got this NOS gold pro neck stem. its in such good condition it got me thinking, could it be
a modern FAKE?  I've seen a thread on museum about how to spot one and following the information it
does look the real deal, but it just looks TOO GOOD!!

opinions please 

[Snav]

A guy in the states re did some a couple of years back in all the variations they did 

Inverted, Round and Square edge ones 

[Gnarlyscoots]

The original Pro Neck lettering was stamped into the cap, this look laser etched.

The stem bolt only had the 3 lines on the top too, not the triangle, if I remember correctly bro 

[dwain dibbly]

A guy in the states re did some a couple of years back in all the variations they did 

Inverted, Round and Square edge ones 

yeah from what i can gather, the fakes that were made had more metal from the bolt hole to the edge of the stem

the ones on the left are fake the ones on the right are the real deal you can see the difference

[Jaan]

Looks repop / fake or whatever you want to call it.  The triangle on the stem bolt and the markings on the cap bolts indicated the metal they're manufactured from - i'm sure that wasn't ever present BITD 

[Jaan]

Kerning looks wrong too buddy

[Bfellows]

The original Pro Neck lettering was stamped into the cap, this look laser etched.

The stem bolt only had the 3 lines on the top too, not the triangle, if I remember correctly bro 

I agree with Terry, looks laser etched to me.........

[Gnarlyscoots]

Is this the one Ebay at the moment 

[dwain dibbly]

cheers guys pretty much confirms it then  i now need to get on to the seller who advertised it as genuine NOS 
in all the years of doing this hobby this is the first time I've been stung!!!!

[dwain dibbly]

Is this the one Ebay at the moment 

same seller mate, he also has a blue one!!

[snoopy72]

It's a fake, the small triangle on the bolt head gives it away

[Gnarlyscoots]

Is this the one Ebay at the moment 

same seller mate, he also has a blue one!!

scary-hairy-mary from Basildon

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171474331924?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[dwain dibbly]

Is this the one Ebay at the moment 

same seller mate, he also has a blue one!!

scary-hairy-mary from Basildon

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171474331924?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

does anyone know him??

[snoopy72]

I've owned one, they are well made and I bet it's stronger than the original  as they had problems with the grade of alloy, the pro neck 2 was better grade alloy.

[snoopy72]

cheers guys pretty much confirms it then  i now need to get on to the seller who advertised it as genuine NOS 
in all the years of doing this hobby this is the first time I've been stung!!!!

They are NOS from 2 years ago.

[johnjo74]

Is this the one Ebay at the moment 

same seller mate, he also has a blue one!!

scary-hairy-mary from Basildon

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171474331924?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Basildon

Very interesting Mr Bond ....



Scary Mary must have up sticks recently as this Pro Neck in their completed listings from a couple of days ago says item located in Toon-side .....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/tuf-neck-old-school-bmx-stem-nos-/171464343293?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27ec123efd

Although back in August , these hubs were in Basildon .......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/son-lite-old-school-bmx-hubs-/171412252850?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item27e8f768b2

[dwain dibbly]

interesting, the blue one in the completed listing thats still in the original packaging has the same bolt as mine???

[johnjo74]

I can't see anything 'in' any packaging , but there are a couple of items 'on' some packaging .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/scary-hairy-mary/m.html?item=171474331924&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc#item27e8f768b2

I wouldn't know the difference tbh , but I'm assuming if a stem can be repro'd that the packaging shouldn't be too hard to copy ??

[hokuspokus74]

Hairy mary is making a killing on there the son lites are they real i wonder,stems look quality though but you would like a real one for them prices,report him to ebay

[dwain dibbly]

i have emailed him and explained the stem isn't genuine but haven't had a reply yet

[hokuspokus74]

He will probably shut up shop and open up again in another name i hate guys like that why not be honest about the thing or say that am not %100 sure and sell them on at a fair price instead of  guys like yourself been ripped  off 

[Jaan]

Good luck, I hope they're honest about it.

I don't think eBay will give a sh1t as long as they're making money. Absolute80s or whatever his name is sells refinished stuff as NOS all the time and eBay couldn't care less.

[hokuspokus74]

Well i suppose your rite there jaan but i bet if any of us guys tried it we be banned

[rodriguez]

i have emailed him and explained the stem isn't genuine but haven't had a reply yet

Give him 24hrs to reply to be reasonable then open a case, IIRC there's an option for counterfeit goods, just had look and it's covered by EBAY money back guarantee 

[bobbbbsy]

helixbmx ??


http://www.helixbmx.net/stems3.htm