Blood boiling fakes

[pickle]

Jesus guys, they're only fooking kids bikes remember 

[rodriguez]

I got into the hobby in the 1st place when I bought my Son his first BMX in 2008/9 and great memories came back from my youth, subsequently I looked on EBay and the collecting sort of stemmed from there. For me, I loved the chase of hunting down the exotic, really hard to find parts which as we all know generally cost a lot. I genuinely believe repops are hurting the scene and here's a simple example;

I had a pair of VDC Cruiser Monkey bars, 4 sets known to exist. You can email Voris today and he will make you a set to the exact specs of the originals with the addition of a small date stamp. That stamp can easily be ground off and the bars rechromed and hey presto, you've suddenly got an OG set so now there's 5 sets, the more this happens the less 'exclusive' they are and less desirable and so less valuable. I had too much money tied up in my collection to see it dwindle on an almost daily basis. I still have 7 bikes which I'll keep as I love them.

Fair play on your reasons for becoming involved, reason I asked is there are a lot of people who become involved in BMX because they see an investment opportunity.  Any investment opportunity is risky be it stocks and shares, gold or whatever, there's a difference between collecting and speculating.

In my opinion any money you have in BMX should be money that you are prepared to lose.   A true collector will keep their collection until it turns to rust or is worthless because they want the item for what it is not what it's worth.  If you are worried about how much your stuff is worth then you should havef load it because you have it for the wrong reason.

So you know there are currently there are four sets of bars known and another set turns up and a NOS set of VDC monkey bars turn up are you are not suspicious that they might be doctored repops especially given they are in new chrome so they have been stripped, doctored, prepped and finished.  Part of the skill as a collector is spotting the difference and sorting the wheat from the chaff because the genuine item still holds its value. 

The scenario you give doesn't prove that the existance of repops, replicas or fakes negatively effects value of the genuine item, it can't because the quantity of the genuine item has not increased.  When all is said and done there will still only be four genuine sets of bars known and the people who want a set will pay big money to get them.

[oldschoolace]

nice to see everyone getting on

just think - MK was only a month ago

Was only saying the exact same thing last night to Rich, don't know what going on, on here at the mo 

[Chapperz]

I don't have a problem with repop parts or even the likes of Johnny Chopper making copies/ 'tribute' bikes, as long as they are indentifiable as such. I have repop Hutch cranks, Profile 'anniversary' cranks, Hutch beartraps and Skyway bars on my bikes, and these kinds parts have enabled me and others to build their dream bikes. It's when people try to pass them off as originals - that's when I have an issue with it. Not good 

I like this statement above, i will buy genuine items (NOS whatever you want to call them) if i can justify it. In many cases i can't justify it so i'll buy repop bits.......does this make me a bad person. I still get to enjoy the build, hobby and ride, but i'm able to do it on a budget.

Oh no does this mean that my Curtis Cruiser is a fake, or is it o.k. because Brian has made it and it's identifiable as such.

To me its all about keeping it all alive, and if it's done genuinely (like the Curtis Cruisers?) then all well and good in my opinion, i dont know much about the item at the start of this thread....so can't really comment.
I'm not in it to make any money, i'm just in it to enjoy it.

[Jono]

nice to see everyone getting on

just think - MK was only a month ago

haha, i know but sometimes its nice to vent your frustrations, without getting personal, one or two negative comments but, easily ignored, Adam,s a good guy with some nice bikes, think a bit of jealousy going on, went out of his way to help me out and in a complete stranger to him as for repops n fakes, 2 completely different animals, repops are a cheaper option for those who either cant justify price or cant find og, fakes are fraud, and shouldn't be tolerated

[chubby]

nice to see everyone getting on

just think - MK was only a month ago

Was only saying the exact same thing last night to Rich, don't know what going on, on here at the mo 

We've lost that loving feeling 

[Mat]

nice to see everyone getting on

just think - MK was only a month ago

Was only saying the exact same thing last night to Rich, don't know what going on, on here at the mo 

Oh stop being such a moaning prick Clint, you complete & utter twat. 

[oldschoolace]

Yorkshire cnut 

[snoopy72]

Easy tigers    lifes too short 

[meticulous]

for what its worth,  I'd buy one...   

[Devilock]

Flashbacks...

[DIRTBIKER250F]

Winter nights are drawing in haha

[Pooch]

Think Rads just picked up again..

[meticulous]

eeee....  this is like the old times of rad....

[dancetothedrummersbeat]

Is there something going on/gone on in the past that most of us don't know about?..... - it seems to be a very personal attack on Adam for whatever reason. I've only met Adam a few times, but in my opinion he's a genuinely nice bloke. Some of our tastes in bmx are similar - others completely different - Peugeot Black Lion Adam? Admit it - it's your dream bike!

As for Jono - met the man many a time. As generous and genuine a person as you could meet and is 100% upfront regarding his bikes/money paid etc.

This all seems very angry - don't know why..
It should be fun!

[kungfunky]

Whoever started this thread needs a fookin slap. Who's first ?

[Dark Diggler]

[kungfunky]

I love melons

[Mat]

Cats & melons.

That's a recipe for global harmony.

 

[Gnarlyscoots]

[dinglem]

I love melons

Doesn't everybody?! Not a fan of blood boiling fakes mind....

[Jaymz]

I like to throw my BMX on the floor outside the shop, run in but some fruit salad and black jacks, then Ride as fast as I can bunny hopping the curbs on the way home. Sometimes I fall off

[CD17]

They're all at remaking the old stuff, Skyway, GHP, Haro, SE, Profile, Redline, Hoffman, Dia Compe, Hutch & it's been going on for a long time. I remember around ten years ago Kappa making Aerospeed Cranks as well as the PKs, it's just the way it is, there isn't enough "Old" stuff to go round.

[Pooch]

I was given a fantastic esp copy stem for a gift.. I was over the moon and thankful to my buddy for it..
I've never hidden the fact that it's a fake and never would..
On the other hand, if copy's are being made and people are going to sell them at top dollar.. Ie saying it's the real deal. That's wank.  Everything's a gamble if your in it for profit.. It's fun if your not..
Also I think your all queer. And you know I'll say that to ya face...

[Pooch]

They're all at remaking the old stuff, Skyway, GHP, Haro, SE, Profile, Redline, Hoffman, Dia Compe, Hutch & it's been going on for a long time. I remember around ten years ago Kappa making Aerospeed Cranks as well as the PKs, it's just the way it is, there isn't enough "Old" stuff to go round.

pk kappa is the bollox..