Blood boiling fakes

[kungfunky]

Well it's finally been done and done by Johnny Chopper. Many in the BMX world consider the holy of holy trails to be the SE STR-1 Prototype (down tubes under the bb). There's only 1 known and it's owned by Jeff until now....

JC has made two and ones for sale on ebay for around £1000 and the other ? Well..
At a recent show in OZ one was shown fresh powder, JC cranks, JC forks etc and the owner was telling people it's a 78 and been in OZ for years !!

The one for sale
 

The other one


So are you looking at both fakes or the mother of all coincidences ? My guess is both fakes.

Ohh and the black one won 1st place in the vintage race section, go figure.

[stidds]

Why is it that anything JC seems to repop/fake seems to be accepted as quality goods?

Fake is fake is fake.

[oldschoolace]

I love the way people use the word tribute as an excuse to fake something 

[denzil]

That's not good at all. Dog shit thing to do.

[stidds]

I love the way people use the word tribute as an excuse to fake something 

 

It really is a lovely way of faking something 

[boofy44]

Dirty fecka,and a bag of sand as well?

[dp and chopper dude]

I love the way people use the word tribute as an excuse to fake something 

Dunno I quite like it when the wife does a tribute to orgasms at bed time. The double standards cow doesn't like it when I do a tribute to the housework though.

If he'd be honest and just say what they were, people would probably still buy them there ware plenty of retro Haros and the like selling well.

[BMX1973]

Have you a link for the Sale ad? 

[AKGOFF]

Saw this 1st thing this morning.
Exactly part of the reason I sold up and got out. Too many snides are seriously devaluing the originals. I'm guessing this is not stamped anywhere either.
Sad times which will only get worse.

[stidds]

Have you a link for the Sale ad? 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Old-School-BMX-Johnny-Chopper-Quadangle-STR-1-Tribute-20-Frame-/121436329844?pt=AU_Cycling_New_&hash=item1c462b5774

[rodriguez]

The fact they exist doesn't really bother me to be honest.  What bothers me (especially if I was a collector) is them being judged along side original bikes, that is crazy and should never happen.

If there is demand and it can be made it will, it has been going on in other hobbies or collectables for years and years, that's just the way it is. It's possibly comparable to the AC Cobra, Ford GT40 or Porsche Spyder, some of the replicas of them are now collectors items in their own right but only the originals will ever have the real kudos and value.

The argument that it will devalue the originals doesn't hold water and has not been the case, the argument it will piss off some of the people who own the originals does hold water though.

Controversially I'd question the motives of anyone who gets out of the hobby because of replicas and repops, not aimed at you specifically Adam because you are not the only one to abandon ship, you might be able to answer a question though.

Why were you in the hobby in the first place, love of BMX or the thrill of owning stuff no one else has or can have?

[BMX1973]

 

Have you a link for the Sale ad? 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Old-School-BMX-Johnny-Chopper-Quadangle-STR-1-Tribute-20-Frame-/121436329844?pt=AU_Cycling_New_&hash=item1c462b5774

[Rabdul06]

  I have no problem with it as long as its easy to spot the fakes/copy/tribute. A simple date stamp should do it or an obvious difference from the o/s frame.
 

[snoopy72]

Some fake boobs are ok though

[Jaan]

There was I hoping this was going to be an Alexander O'Neal thread

[chubby]

Some fake boobs are ok though

Prefer a nice pair of tribute tits myself 

[snoopy72]

Some fake boobs are ok though

Prefer a nice pair of tribute tits myself 

Remember when you book for the op chubby, most surgeons don't like doing the porn look   

[Chromo Buzz]

There was I hoping this was going to be an Alexander O'Neal thread

Superb , that comment made my stomach hurt so much with laughter

Buz

[snoopy72]

There was I hoping this was going to be an Alexander O'Neal thread

Superb , that comment made my stomach hurt so much with laughter

Buz

[McQUEEN]

The fact they exist doesn't really bother me to be honest.  What bothers me (especially if I was a collector) is them being judged along side original bikes, that is crazy and should never happen.

If there is demand and it can be made it will, it has been going on in other hobbies or collectables for years and years, that's just the way it is. It's possibly comparable to the AC Cobra, Ford GT40 or Porsche Spyder, some of the replicas of them are now collectors items in their own right but only the originals will ever have the real kudos and value.

The argument that it will devalue the originals doesn't hold water and has not been the case, the argument it will piss off some of the people who own the originals does hold water though.

Controversially I'd question the motives of anyone who gets out of the hobby because of replicas and repops, not aimed at you specifically Adam because you are not the only one to abandon ship, you might be able to answer a question though.

Why were you in the hobby in the first place, love of BMX or the thrill of owning stuff no one else has or can have?

Summed up perfectly.........

[snoopy72]

This is not a money making hobby,
 I've paid well over the odds to get some rare parts just because I really wanted them,  sometimes your lucky to be in the right place at the right time to get what you class yourself as a bargain.

 

[Jon The Bassist]

...and I thought BMX was about having fun on bikes 

[dancetothedrummersbeat]

I don't have a problem with repop parts or even the likes of Johnny Chopper making copies/ 'tribute' bikes, as long as they are indentifiable as such. I have repop Hutch cranks, Profile 'anniversary' cranks, Hutch beartraps and Skyway bars on my bikes, and these kinds parts have enabled me and others to build their dream bikes. It's when people try to pass them off as originals - that's when I have an issue with it. Not good 

[griff]

nice to see everyone getting on

just think - MK was only a month ago

[nosepickben]

I don't have a problem with repop parts or even the likes of Johnny Chopper making copies/ 'tribute' bikes, as long as they are indentifiable as such. I have repop Hutch cranks, Profile 'anniversary' cranks, Hutch beartraps and Skyway bars on my bikes, and these kinds parts have enabled me and others to build their dream bikes. It's when people try to pass them off as originals - that's when I have an issue with it. Not good 

Exactly. Buy the stuff you want. If its rare and "worth a lot" then someone will copy or reproduce it. Its the way of the world. You will always get less money out of bmx than you put in, but you get fun, excitement, happiness, exhilaration, laughter, satisfaction, friendship, and whatever else out of it. Ride on and stop bleating.