Who Owns The Oldest BMX On RAD?

[Retrodan72]

I'll admit, I'm not a big fan of anything pre '83, as I didn't get into BMX until then, so don't remember anything about it.

That being said, I've got a big respect and appreciation for these bikes, standing the test of time, and more respect for you guys that restore them and hang out for era correct parts. These bikes were the front runners for the bikes that came later on, that I loved.

So....who's got the oldest?

Lets see them, conplete's or frames.

How low can you go?

[Bigfrawg]

My guess is ash or stidds

[kungfunky]

I'd say Sean's stingray is the oldest bike.

There's a few with early Geese 77 onwards,  the earliest I have is a 75 Webco.

[Retrodan72]

I'd say Sean's stingray is the oldest bike.

There's a few with early Geese 77 onwards,  the earliest I have is a 75 Webco.

Is '75 regarded as the first year of BMX then Ash?

[stidds]

My Stingray is from 1970 my LRV and R&R are from 1976.

[In2bmx]

76 Redline is the best I an do .

[kungfunky]

I'd say Sean's stingray is the oldest bike.

There's a few with early Geese 77 onwards,  the earliest I have is a 75 Webco.

Is '75 regarded as the first year of BMX then Ash?

November 1970 was the first official BMX race held in California in a Motorcross track. The original event was organised by the OM under his newly formed B.U.M.S  ( Bicycle United Motocross Society ).

Most raced on converted stingrays etc.

From memory the first Looptail BMX was a Redline, Jeff Haney obviously owns that one.

[kungfunky]

Jeff's, Ricks Bike Shop Redline 1973.

[GRAB ON KID]

I'd say Sean's stingray is the oldest bike.

There's a few with early Geese 77 onwards,  the earliest I have is a 75 Webco.

Ooh did someone say Webco?    Ash,you kept that one quiet dude.Any pics?   

[GRAB ON KID]

That RBS Redline is killer! 

[kungfunky]

I'd say Sean's stingray is the oldest bike.

There's a few with early Geese 77 onwards,  the earliest I have is a 75 Webco.

Ooh did someone say Webco?    Ash,you kept that one quiet dude.Any pics?   

First my DG then the Webco    you'll be wanting the Dan Gurney after that   
I'll have a root around for some pics Mike  I don't have the mags for it though, missed out on a few sets over the years and the $1000 starting price usually puts me off.
And year Jeff's bike is amazing.

[stidds]

For my next build, when I can be bothered to build it I have a 1975 A&A, I just need to start putting some parts on it.

[dinglem]

The Stingray frame I've posted about in the Vintage section is 70-71 at the latest. It has no serial no. stamping on the head tube and I have read they were stamped there from late 71 onwards. I am back home tomorrow night so can hopefully date it then. By the current state of it though I'd put it down as pre-Ark.

[kungfunky]

Which gone for a Shocker ?. Interesting frames.

Fingers crossed I'll be working on a 76 DeCoster soon.

[GRAB ON KID]

Yeah just remembered that's  JP's  OG RL looptail. Doh! 
I thought it looked familiar, I remember reading about this years ago.Used in the old Redline ad w/JP tucked & bombing it.It couldn't get any cooler now.Jeff has the grail then for loopies & RL.No surprise there!

What a wicked shot too!  ROOTS !!!! 

[fischflo]

I'd say Sean's stingray is the oldest bike.

There's a few with early Geese 77 onwards,  the earliest I have is a 75 Webco.

Is '75 regarded as the first year of BMX then Ash?

"The first Schwinn BMX-specific bicycle came out in 1975 (The Scrambler) so you know things were well on their way years prior to the largest bicycle manufacturer in the world coming out with their version."
"Since 1975 was the first year a BMX bicycle was available on a wide geographic scale, we'll use that as a rough starting point for "old school BMX"." (http://dirtysow.com/Eras_of_BMX_Defined.html)

[Spen69]

OMFG that Redline is amazing

'78 for me. Full chromo Team Mongoose, an early one from the first year they made them

And no Ash, it's still not for sale as there is still air in my lungs to ride it

[pickle]

Yeah just remembered that's  JP's  OG RL looptail. Doh! 
I thought it looked familiar, I remember reading about this years ago.Used in the old Redline ad w/JP tucked & bombing it.It couldn't get any cooler now.Jeff has the grail then for loopies & RL.No surprise there!

What a wicked shot too!  ROOTS !!!! 

how fooking awesome is that picture! 

[Devilock]

BMX is 44 years old...?!

[bigfatolly]

Is it me or is the front wheel on that Redline in the action shot a Motomag?

[kungfunky]

I'd say definitely wire as per photo. Not 100% sure what year motomags came out but I believe the action shot was in 74

[GRAB ON KID]

Motomags came out in 74'.OL Snaggletooth was a test rider for Bmx Products & RL being the main badass on Rick's team & Rick was one of the first guys to get motomags.I'm sure that front is a motomag Ash.You can tell by the hub & can defo see the motomag spoke pattern in the pic.The rear looks to be wire though.   

[Retrodan72]

The knowledge you guys have stored away is outstanding. 

[kungfunky]

Another interesting point is that Jeff says the bike he has (which is the action shot bike) is a 74, where's Rick Twomey says it's definitely a 73 and still has the receipt from Redline.

Looking closer at the pic your right on the hub section. As always throughout the early days parts were developed / tested and swapped out on a regular basis with the riders.

Dan RAD has a plethora of hidden knowledge and it's only when questions like yours are asked do we get to see some of it 

The Redline in the pic is the very first hard tail BMX. A bit off topic but nice to touch on the early stays a little.

[kungfunky]

Ricks Bike Shop Race Team circa 1973

John Palfreyman, Tom Lund, Doug Takahashi  and no idea of the kid on the right.