4x wheel building???

[hokuspokus74]

I need a guide on how to build a rim 4x pattern that one of stidds is for 3x its to confusing for me now as am ready for the leading spokes to go on,anyone help me here

[wildon]

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=47611

[hokuspokus74]

Thanks wildon but still no good to me,its this spoke crossing that i cant get,if i cross 3 then under it doesnt work,is it any wonder i leave theis to the pro's to do so fooking complicated

[wildon]

How doesnt it work?  I used that tutorial to do all of mine.  Worked fine every time 

[hokuspokus74]

your maybe a bit brighter than me at this carryon am just baffled when i cross them it doesnt look right

[hokuspokus74]

i followed that link and for the 4x the spokes dont reach now alot of the nipples are sitting high in the rim,yet they are the correct spoke length 194mm,so i doubt i got to pay a shop approx £33-50 to do my rims and i have another 5-6 sets to do,so i dont know what i have done wrong as i tried to keep the nipples as loose as possible,and that was watching a guy on youtube so it goes to show how thick i am:/

[hokuspokus74]

here is were i am puzzled doing this wheel i think the other side is rite,or maybe not,but when i goto put the spoke in on the 4x it takes me too were ther already is a spoke in the hole,anyone help me 

[garran]

i followed seans guide and got on ok. make sure when you start you have the right spokes by the tube hole etc. very important. when the first two sides are in twice clockwise and then work to the left that what i did?
theres this as well but george goes under on the 3rd, i didnt
http://www.gsportbmx.co.uk/custom/wheel_build/wheels.html
hope it helps

[hokuspokus74]

thanks Garran,is it 4x guide on the link,sent you a pm there

[stidds]

thanks Garran,is it 4x guide on the link,sent you a pm there

There only difference between a 3x and 4x wheel is that 3x is over 2 spokes and under 1 and 4x is over 3 spokes and under 1.

Other than that it is the same.

[hokuspokus74]

Think i have it sorted now had to redo the back rim,as i started to tighten the nips the whole rim bent like a banana lol so thought i better dismantle it and restart it all over 

[stidds]

Think i have it sorted now had to redo the back rim,as i started to tighten the nips the whole rim bent like a banana lol so thought i better dismantle it and restart it all over 

You are actually getting the best experience ever, we have all had to completely start again at some stage, but it gets you used to building the wheel and also to sort out the problems yourself is invaluable.

[ED209]

so glad I found this thread as I was about to post up a '4x Brainfreeze' thread 

Sean answered my questions 

[hokuspokus74]

So glad i got them rims sorted as i was ready for a bottle of diazepam