Author Topic: Early Beater vs. later Beater - What we saying?? (Read 2802 times)

Beaterman · « **on:** May 01, 2014, 10:08 AM »

So in my search for the KHE Beater frame, i discovered that they changed the design circa 2001/2003 (after i stopped riding) i was fortunate enough to get my hands on both.... now i need to decide on which frame to use to complete the project....

I have (what i believe to be) a very early Beater in White and a very late 2003 model in blue.... both fairly heavy (as were most in that era) - whats the general consensus of the two?

i understand that the early models seat tube were made of a different material making them prone to cracks and weakness - this one seems to be fine... on the other hand the later models have a built in gyro..... Hmmmm

Whats people saying?

Later 2003 KHE Beater

Early Model - not sure on year.... maybe 96?

fischflo · « **Reply #1 on:** May 01, 2014, 10:33 AM »

What's that disease where the head fills with liquid called, water head...? The 2003 Beater's got it. Other one for me

kev-s · « **Reply #2 on:** May 01, 2014, 10:44 AM »

Im not a fan of either but if i had to id build the early one, the later one is just too ugly!!

Beaterman · « **Reply #3 on:** May 01, 2014, 10:46 AM »

Cheers mate! thats a new one on me! thanks for the heads up... any other underlining issues? also....

I saw on another threat that the beater frame dates back to 93/94?... i thought it was launched in 96/97

this is the thread i've seen suggesting the release was 93...

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,115535.msg1122874.html#msg1122874

Beaterman · « **Reply #4 on:** May 01, 2014, 10:47 AM »

Thanks Kev

gary4130 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 01, 2014, 10:48 AM »

the white one mate

the blue with the internal gyro is just nasty

Dannywhac · « **Reply #6 on:** May 01, 2014, 11:13 AM »

Na - that threads wrong I reckon - Beaters were as you say 95/96ish

Beaterman · « **Reply #7 on:** May 01, 2014, 11:17 AM »

thanks people - i checked the KHE History and it does say on their site that it was launched in 96...

http://www.khebikes.com/2014/1996-2000-p-1258.html

thanks for the feedback so far... looks like the White frame is in the lead so far... can anyone tell me if they are the original decals? maybe they just used the KHE letters before using the car decal?

EDBANGER · « **Reply #8 on:** May 01, 2014, 11:46 AM »

The later one is beastly ugly but in a beautiful way. Do both

Beaterman · « **Reply #9 on:** May 01, 2014, 11:53 AM »

ha ha ha EDBANGER - i know exactly what you are saying! my head is screaming at the white one but the theirs somthing about the later frame thats drawing me to it!.... i posted this thread just to make sure that it wasnt the shinny newer look it has..... i have the white one booked in for a new coat anyways - so we shall see....

anyone interested in a 8000t Seventies front sprocket and a 1 piece crank?

fischflo · « **Reply #10 on:** May 01, 2014, 12:50 PM »

.....can't find a pic of your decals, but they suit perfectly ...... decisions waaah

Beaterman · « **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2014, 12:54 PM »

they are the decals i had in mind... there is a very slim chance (and i mean slim chance) that i could get my hands on a set of originals (their in a draw in Germany somewhere - Unused) - friend of a friend kind of situation....

the ones that are on the bike look familiar - i thought i had seen them before - baybe on the original beater - 05 ish...

fischflo · « **Reply #12 on:** May 01, 2014, 01:09 PM »

you mean the one on the cover of the '97 ride magazine....? yeah, way cool

, ...they're different to the ones with the car, arent they?

Beaterman · « **Reply #13 on:** May 01, 2014, 01:16 PM »

sorry mate - yeah, the ones on the cover are the ones i had in mind for my project.... (the Car decals with red beater lettering) i think these are circa 97 however i was unsure if the first line of beaters had a different decal set - ie - the ones on my white frame.... if this is an early frame say 95 ish i may have found a little gem....

these are the ones close up: (also on a 97 beater)
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/khe_/46180

Beaterman · « **Reply #14 on:** May 01, 2014, 01:39 PM »

i've got the serial from the white frame: WF96E1641 - so maybe 96?

fischflo · « **Reply #15 on:** May 01, 2014, 01:52 PM »

ah, get it now - and i just read the Beater was designed in 1993 (http://www.khe-bmx.com/)
perhaps you could ask Del to repro the decals (the ones on your white frame) in any case?

also there#s a contact form on the khe site, maybe they know something about dem stickers

and 96 sounds right: that's consistent with the serials on the bikes on the museum (WF98E3580 for a '98 and 9701305 for a 97)

Beaterman · « **Reply #16 on:** May 01, 2014, 02:05 PM »

Hi mate - yeah, I've already set a form on the KHE site.... had nothing back as yet - that was about 2 weeks ago now

I sent Del a msg too to see if he can send me a picture - still awaiting response see what happens. in the meantime the white Beater is booked in to be dipped and re powdered back to its original white colour and i will be putting the blue one back on the market if i can bring myself to do it: such a beast of a frame! side by side the difference quite a bit!

fischflo · « **Reply #17 on:** May 01, 2014, 02:29 PM »

if they don't answer the form, ring them up
Tel. +49(0)721 - 5307280
Fax.+49(0)721 - 55072828 , lazy bastards

cool bike this will be - im sure, there's one on the bay atm, but pickup only

Dannywhac · « **Reply #18 on:** May 01, 2014, 02:55 PM »

Na - Beater was deffo designed in 96 - production models out late '96. Think they might have got it wrong on the KHE site (or there's something they're not telling us

)

For your pleasure, the Jason Davies interview from Ride mag about his sig frame from August 1996:

Oh yeah, and the car deecs were the first version ones (with the drill/whisk paint mixer top tube decals).

Beaterman · « **Reply #19 on:** May 01, 2014, 03:16 PM »

i fking love the internet! nice one Danny! will have a read!....

in regards to the telephone call - i will most definitely do so Fischflo - TBH due to German efficiency i was expecting a call from KHE before i finished sending my message to them!!... unfortunately that was not the case!...

Actually!.... i was talking to Mark Pettersson yesterday, nice chap! - i'm sure he will be able to shed some light on the matter. He worked with KHE

YGT · « **Reply #20 on:** May 01, 2014, 03:30 PM »

I don't remember the white frame decals to be honest, with many KHE beater frames being chrome and then having clear paints as time progressed.
Definitely 96 onwards in terms of when the beaters were manufactured.

I might have some blueprints somewhere?

Beaterman · « **Reply #21 on:** May 01, 2014, 04:05 PM »

if you do man that would be awesome! thank you....

i noticed in the article that Danny posted, JD talks about the chap in the US that designed them - his name (what looks like) Mike Maas or Mass? - may be worth a try...

Danny - can you confirm Mikes Last name at alll buddy?

cheers

J

Dannywhac · « **Reply #22 on:** May 01, 2014, 04:12 PM »

It's Maas

Beaterman · « **Reply #23 on:** May 02, 2014, 04:23 PM »

Hi Guys - The 2003 Blue Beater in now for sale as you see it in the pic at the top of this post if anyone is interested

I will be posting in on the for sale feed on here too very soon

Get in touch if you are interested

Cheers

J

rodriguez · « **Reply #24 on:** May 02, 2014, 05:35 PM »

Early beater for me

Author Topic: Early Beater vs. later Beater - What we saying?? (Read 2802 times)

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