Author Topic: Falcon Tioga Mini (Read 3961 times)

Twesnik · « **on:** April 22, 2014, 03:04 PM »

Team issue Falcon mini.

Twesnik · « **Reply #1 on:** April 23, 2014, 08:55 AM »

It is a Team Falcon Tioga Mini but has a gusset. These were available to Team riders. Check this one out (branded with Rhino Charge Decals): http://www.bloggingadeadhorse.com/images/bmx/hotfoot/falcon/FPB2_pg2.jpg

Twesnik · « **Reply #2 on:** April 23, 2014, 09:20 AM »

Here'a pickie from Forks!
Will check THE stamp on it,later today....

MartyC · « **Reply #3 on:** April 23, 2014, 10:29 AM »

How do you know they are for Team riders only? Is there any history with this one?

Twesnik · « **Reply #4 on:** April 23, 2014, 10:43 AM »

If i'm correctly informed,these are stickered up,for THE Team-Members only,Falcon never used Tange/Tioga for THE mass!
Was all About sales.....

Twesnik · « **Reply #5 on:** April 23, 2014, 10:46 AM »

And it's got something to do,with that diamond stamp,under BB!

MartyC · « **Reply #6 on:** April 23, 2014, 11:05 AM »

Quote from: Twesnik on April 23, 2014, 10:46 AM

And it's got something to do,with that diamond stamp,under BB!

Interesting, what is the significance then? Not some Illuminati type inference there?

Twesnik · « **Reply #7 on:** April 23, 2014, 11:10 AM »

LOL!
Someone searched THE globe,on this matter 4-me!
And i'm just saying here,what he told me.....
No.more,no less.....
$:-\$

monkian · « **Reply #8 on:** April 23, 2014, 11:19 AM »

The Tange / Tioga Frames were Falcon Team Issue but they might have been available to the public via bike shops perhaps in a kit form from Falcon. There's a shot of the Rhino charge on the back of the Falcon Catalogue but no price details or info so reads more like an ad. Nothing found on the Mini though. Sorry if my info was a bit confused on this Arno $:-\$

Twesnik · « **Reply #9 on:** April 23, 2014, 11:33 AM »

Again,no probs Paul!

monkian · « **Reply #10 on:** April 23, 2014, 11:33 AM »

I wonder if the EO symbol could be something like an OEM Original Equipment Manufacture stamp?
Maybe Engineering Order. I guess Falcon would have dealt with Tioga who then dealt with Tange so it could have been a Tange Factory thing for Tioga

Twesnik · « **Reply #11 on:** April 23, 2014, 11:41 AM »

Might be,that one on eBay,was dated '84 & had that significant diamond stamp with ES in it!
Diff Forks tho.....
TBC?

monkian · « **Reply #12 on:** April 23, 2014, 11:52 AM »

Hmmm. Good guess though

That Swan Guy · « **Reply #13 on:** April 23, 2014, 11:58 AM »

The taller Falcon riders did indeed ride the Rhino Charge stickered up as a Falcon as Falcon never produced a race worthy frame themselves; a bit like Raleigh in that sense. Jeff Bishop, Gary Fenwick and the Maw family all rode them. Jonty Maw still has his brother's, the late 3 times World Champion David Maw, bike that his lad rides on the Cleethorpes outing every year. It's a mini and looks very Tange. I can check next time I see him but I am sure it was built especially for David.

Twesnik · « **Reply #14 on:** April 23, 2014, 12:16 PM »

Good input on this matter!
Thx,upfront.....
THE Forks here are diff,on add are pictured Tioga Decals,still have to check THE date-stamp on Forks on THE one here,Will do later today!
THE Old eBay F&F listing had also diff Forks.....

monkian · « **Reply #15 on:** April 23, 2014, 12:19 PM »

Nice one Nick. You might be in trouble for that Raleigh comment though

This came up a while back. Good bit of info. Same deal but without the HT gusset:
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,141635

That Swan Guy · « **Reply #16 on:** April 23, 2014, 12:47 PM »

Well who made their race bikes?

They certainly didn't come from Nottingham

Twesnik · « **Reply #17 on:** April 23, 2014, 12:54 PM »

Quote from: That Swan Guy on April 23, 2014, 12:47 PM

Well who made their race bikes?

They certainly didn't come from Nottingham

Haha!
LOL

monkian · « **Reply #18 on:** April 23, 2014, 03:07 PM »

That's true enough

Twesnik · « **Reply #19 on:** April 23, 2014, 07:27 PM »

Took THE F&F for à breakdown today,stamp on Forks scream'83 Tange!
So,can we say round legged Tange Kuwahara Mini TRX Forks?
Never have seen Those btw.....
Througt all TRX where oval,exept for THE ET!

That Swan Guy · « **Reply #20 on:** June 01, 2014, 07:08 PM »

Spoke to Jonty Maw last week (he's the dude on the left on the team photo) and he said he has 3 NOS Tange mini frames in his garage. They never made frames specifically for the team they were off the shelf Tange frames.

monkian · « **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2014, 10:47 AM »

Nick work Nick

I suspect they were made for Tioga who then supplied them to Falcon. I haven't seen one yet that's cropped up for another brand like a other Tange frames so it might be safer to say they were an off the shelf Tioga product rather than Tange but I hear what you're saying. It's not like they were custom built for the Falcon team

The diamond stamp does seem to be unique to these Mini frames though (seen on both versions, with and without the small head-tube gusset). Still no idea what that was all about

I'd love to see Jonty's memorabilia from BITD. Would make a great thread

That Swan Guy · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2014, 07:01 PM »

Quote from: monkian on June 04, 2014, 10:47 AM

Nick work Nick

I suspect they were made for Tioga who then supplied them to Falcon. I haven't seen one yet that's cropped up for another brand like a other Tange frames so it might be safer to say they were an off the shelf Tioga product rather than Tange but I hear what you're saying. It's not like they were custom built for the Falcon team

The diamond stamp does seem to be unique to these Mini frames though (seen on both versions, with and without the small head-tube gusset). Still no idea what that was all about

I'd love to see Jonty's memorabilia from BITD. Would make a great thread

He's quite coy about it all really and is a complete techno-phobe!

I'll see what I can do

That Swan Guy · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2014, 08:44 PM »

This is one of the frame sets he made up for his daughter.

Here are the bottom bracket markings

Twesnik · « **Reply #24 on:** June 23, 2014, 03:07 PM »

Ah,no gusset,on that Swanny!

Yep,diamond stamp.....