Mid School dates debate Vote off

[Gish]

I don't understand this 2 years either way.
2 year of flexibility to accommodate exceptions what a fookin load of bollocks

It's either mid school or not NO exceptions

This came out through discussion in the other thread so I'd defend it as not 'bollocks' 

The 'Mid School' era would be firmly defined as 1989 to 2003 ... BUT with the option for those with bikes from the 2 years before and after these dates to include them if they felt it was appropriate. This decision was reached through discussion as a good way to resolve current issues.

So I class my 87 Cw as mid school because the old school section in this forum stops at 86.

That's why it would be better if it went to decades.

[pickle]

I don't understand this 2 years either way.
2 year of flexibility to accommodate exceptions what a fookin load of bollocks

It's either mid school or not NO exceptions

This came out through discussion in the other thread so I'd defend it as not 'bollocks' 

The 'Mid School' era would be firmly defined as 1989 to 2003 ... BUT with the option for those with bikes from the 2 years before and after these dates to include them if they felt it was appropriate. This decision was reached through discussion as a good way to resolve current issues.

So I class my 87 Cw as mid school because the old school section in this forum stops at 86.

That's why it would be better if it went to decades.

Nope, i would say you'd put that in old school due to the 2 year grace period depending on frame design    isn't that what they are suggesting or am i wrong?

[Gish]

I don't understand this 2 years either way.
2 year of flexibility to accommodate exceptions what a fookin load of bollocks

It's either mid school or not NO exceptions

This came out through discussion in the other thread so I'd defend it as not 'bollocks' 

The 'Mid School' era would be firmly defined as 1989 to 2003 ... BUT with the option for those with bikes from the 2 years before and after these dates to include them if they felt it was appropriate. This decision was reached through discussion as a good way to resolve current issues.u

So I class my 87 Cw as mid school because the old school section in this forum stops at 86.

That's why it would be better if it went to decades.

Nope, i would say you'd put that in old school due to the 2 year grace period depending on frame design    isn't that what they are suggesting or am i wrong?

So why not have old school 80-88, then mid school 89-2001 instead of having flexible dates
That's firm dates
When one class ends another opens not overlapping each other by 2 years

[pickle]

because i think a few people have given examples of frame sets from 87/88 that have their roots firmly planted in mid 

It's not that bigger deal is it 

[ED209]

I don't understand this 2 years either way.
2 year of flexibility to accommodate exceptions what a fookin load of bollocks

It's either mid school or not NO exceptions

This came out through discussion in the other thread so I'd defend it as not 'bollocks' 

The 'Mid School' era would be firmly defined as 1989 to 2003 ... BUT with the option for those with bikes from the 2 years before and after these dates to include them if they felt it was appropriate. This decision was reached through discussion as a good way to resolve current issues.

So I class my 87 Cw as mid school because the old school section in this forum stops at 86.

That's why it would be better if it went to decades.

The 2 year flexible' period for Mid School allows you the opportunity to put your 87 CW into Mid School if you felt it needed to be there - otherwise it would stay in old school by default - you'd have to offer some reason why it would be classed as Mid School and that decision would be moderated as well.

I think its a good work around from the opinions that came out 

[ED209]

I don't understand this 2 years either way.
2 year of flexibility to accommodate exceptions what a fookin load of bollocks

It's either mid school or not NO exceptions

This came out through discussion in the other thread so I'd defend it as not 'bollocks' 

The 'Mid School' era would be firmly defined as 1989 to 2003 ... BUT with the option for those with bikes from the 2 years before and after these dates to include them if they felt it was appropriate. This decision was reached through discussion as a good way to resolve current issues.u

So I class my 87 Cw as mid school because the old school section in this forum stops at 86.

That's why it would be better if it went to decades.

Nope, i would say you'd put that in old school due to the 2 year grace period depending on frame design    isn't that what they are suggesting or am i wrong?

So why not have old school 80-88, then mid school 89-2001 instead of having flexible dates
That's firm dates
When one class ends another opens not overlapping each other by 2 years

it only overlaps to accommodate members with bikes in that period what would be classed Old School but are, for whatever reasons given, wanting to me classed as Mid.

The define date thing was tried and didn't seem to be working... this was created to try and solve the problem.

[insectbones]

This thread and the other one related to it have been great reading, nice to see the passion 

I've voted for the 'schools' rather than the 'decades', interesting to see how close the voting is 

[ED209]

bump this example of why its needed.

Just to add to the above - these two frames are both from '88 - one is deffo Old School, and the other is deffo Mid School (sorry for the pic stealing Rob  ):

1988 Streetbeat:



1988 Mad Dog:



Sorry if I'm conveluting the poll - delete if it's getting in the way 

[Dannywhac]

Knew I should have vacumned (notice I didn say Hoover) before I took that pic Ed 

[pickle]

Always good to see my old beat though 

[Gnarlyscoots]

As I said previously though Ed, a mid school bike is quite easy tell just by looking at it, in my opinion anyway's 

bump this example of why its needed.

Just to add to the above - these two frames are both from '88 - one is deffo Old School, and the other is deffo Mid School (sorry for the pic stealing Rob  ):

1988 Streetbeat:



1988 Mad Dog:

[OrgasmDonor]

My bikes span from late 80s to 90s, in my mind I pigeon hole my bikes as midschool 89-99 (my youngest is 1993 and oldest 1987). If the site decided on decades, I would post them or any new purquirements in the correct section, I would also (if the decade sections become as cliquey as the current sections) post a thread "I know this isn't 80s/90s but thought you guys might like to see this" if I feel it is older/younger than the allocated decade but appropriate to the majority of bikes in the other section. Giving the opportunity to open rad up a bit and venture into different sections and share.

I can understand the sentiment of schools, but do feel this will not change at all.
I understand the logic of decades simply because it is logical.
I do not understand how we can encapsulate everyone's personal evaluation of where they think their bike should be posted and accurately define an era.

I will however fully accept whatever decision is made coz it makes no difference at all to my bikes, they are what they are, and more importantly, they are what they are to me. how can any change change that?

would love to see more votes tho

[midschooljon]

Will it mean that Jon has to have a new username it the decades win?

I like midschooljon.........90'sjon doesnt have the same ring to it 

 

I dont understand why everyone thinks that just because a bike is in a section dedicated 90's bikes that it cant be called mid school any more. Who was that conclusion reached?

[stidds]

Will it mean that Jon has to have a new username it the decades win?

I like midschooljon.........90'sjon doesnt have the same ring to it 

 

I dont understand why everyone thinks that just because a bike is in a section dedicated 90's bikes that it cant be called mid school any more. Who was that conclusion reached?

Jon mate, you can call yourself whatever you want mate, however judging by the voting so far I think your midschool moniker is safe.

[fischflo]

90sjon

[monkian]

Why try to fit the terms to years at all?
Just let the bike spec define if it's old or mid.
Maybe too rad??

[midschooljon]

Will it mean that Jon has to have a new username it the decades win?

I like midschooljon.........90'sjon doesnt have the same ring to it 

 

I dont understand why everyone thinks that just because a bike is in a section dedicated 90's bikes that it cant be called mid school any more. Who was that conclusion reached?

Jon mate, you can call yourself whatever you want mate, however judging by the voting so far I think your midschool moniker is safe.

And none of my bikes will be new school either. 

[aerostylie]

When we use ebay or the like, do we search by old, mid, new, or by decade?

bmx museum I just search by individual year and define my own era type.

Like the idea though of rounded up years split by type ie got a mongoose decade 87 which I'd class as old rather than mid.

[brakedancer]

is the old school section going to have a  2 year flexible' period so it over laps with the mid then....

[ED209]

is the old school section going to have a  2 year flexible' period so it over laps with the mid then....

That was one of the motivations behind the whole thread and vote... 1987 being too early a start date for mid school ... by moving that start date of mid school to 89 then we have provided and extra 2 years to encompass old school 

[Gish]

is the old school section going to have a  2 year flexible' period so it over laps with the mid then....

I reckon old school should have z 3 year flexibility aswell to accommodate old school bikes that were made in 87 & 88

[ED209]

is the old school section going to have a  2 year flexible' period so it over laps with the mid then....

I reckon old school should have z 3 year flexibility aswell to accommodate old school bikes that were made in 87 & 88

That's exactly what is being proposed 

Old school ending in 88 ... Mid school starting in 89 ... but with flexibility to include bikes from 87/88 that could, at the owner/builders request, be classified/mderated as 'Mid'. 

[brakedancer]

is the old school section going to have a  2 year flexible' period so it over laps with the mid then....

I reckon old school should have z 3 year flexibility aswell to accommodate old school bikes that were made in 87 & 88

That's exactly what is being proposed 

Old school ending in 88 ... Mid school starting in 89 ... but with flexibility to include bikes from 87/88 that could, at the owner/builders request, be classified/mderated as 'Mid'. 

sounds like a plan....

[ED209]

any more votes?

[dordymush]

tbh i dont care what anybody classes my bikes as i class them mid school and im happy with that.
where your gonna get problems and bad feeling is at the like of the show and shine at MK etc.
i can see arguments or moaning if such as robs streetbeat won in a mid school class.
if these dates for the sections are gonna be used for s + s i can see trouble ahead  .