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What happens 2003 onwards? Im not for or against anything thats been put forward but new school won't be for long. Decades are going to have to come into it at some point otherwise each but off is gonna be a recurring nightmare. Would be wise to look at the bigger picture and not just the bit you likeJust a thought
Don't av a go at me, I can this thread is going nowhere fast so just put it to the vote and let us decide 87-200389-200390-2000Etc etc
I like that Lenny!!
...so how about...(including exceptions from 1987 ) 1989 - 2003 (including exceptions up to 2005)or .(>1987) 1989 - 2003 (<2005)...which allows for anyone with early of late 'midschool' to include it in the area they want it in
So it's just a vote on ONE period (89-2003) versus the decade idea, or is the decade idea ruled out? AND especially if indeed just a YES/NO vote then it would be useful to add the main arguments in the actual vote, as -as i take-, this vote aims at wide participation and there'll be many who will not be arsed to read the whole shebang here1989 : as Stu:"This was then the era that S&M amongst others started to come to the fore, if you look back at videos of the late 80's/early 90's you don't really see anyone riding an S&M but plenty of haro's and gt's are about. Yes the S&M was probably a better and stronger bike back in 88 but it hadn't gained any popularity at that time. "2003 : Rod"04ish="US BB phased out, freewheels phased out in favour of cassette and introdution of micro gearing, 48h to 36h, movement towards light and strong as opposed to heavy and strong."Danny"It's when you start seeing true micro gearing, the dropping of US BB's and a new 'make it light and strong' approach kicking in that for me defines the start of new. Although as any kid at a park and they don;t give a fook about owt earlier than last year "Philbert:"This for me ran up until about 03. Then new school made a real headway with companies jumping on the standard bandwagon and using lighter tubing from strengthened metals, smaller chainrings, euro, Spanish, and mid bbs were becomingly widely available."
(>1987) 1989 - 2003 (<2005)That works for me as well - little bit of light slapping into another section if we end up with a non extra gussets welded FST etc in 'ere and bob's your uncle.That also give +- a decade for new school. Guess we don't have to worry 'bout a new-new section for that till we get the bmx equivelant of hoverboards
Its not definitely ANYTHING that was just an idea... if its not working we chuck it out if something better comes along.
unless it's some more peeps proposing for the 1987 startdate (which doesn't really seem necessary if there's an Admin consensus on that soft moderation ...err hows that sound ..solution), then i suggest a vote on smth like that (>1987) 1989 - 2003 (<2005) VERSUS decadessimply cause quite a few seem to favour that decade thong.
STATMENTFlexibility of 2 years either side of years 1989 - 2003 is acceptable Can someone second this motion?I also propose that the date of any said BMX is determined by its frame. Hear, Hear. Said like some MP in the commons
..thought it was 3 versus 5 years that would have to be shifted (with the 89-03 versus decade solutions).........?
Regarding 'decades' as Sean has said, that will be a major change and may not justify the work involved ... if not more in favour of the 89-03 with 2 year flexibility
if 1989 wins you'll have to shift 1987 and 1988 and 2003 =3 years if decades you shift 1987, 88, 89 and 2001, 2002 = 5 years
huh? how does '3 verses 5 years' come into it?1989-2003 - flexibility for submission 2 year before and 2 years after these dates.