Cheers for all the thoughts and recommendations
I too love Vans (currently got about 3 pairs, although one are very small for a 10
) but I had a few 'dabs' when I started riding again and the protection just isn't there. So for serious riding (ie racing/skateparks) I need something a bit more beefy.
I ordered the Etnies in the end as they were half the price of the FiveTens - I'll let you know if they are significantly better/worse than expected and how grippy they are.