Author Topic: Blue Z-Rim Question (Read 3986 times)

hokuspokus74 · « **on:** February 17, 2014, 03:55 PM »

I have got a set of blue z-rims never laced but the is like white marks on them,it must be from storage,i was wondering what is the best thing to use to get these like new,i dont want to take them to anyone to get bead blasted etc.

graham

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2014, 04:17 PM »

Get some pics up, it will help to give a more accurate diagnosis mate.

My guess, without seeing them, is dye them.

hokuspokus74 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2014, 04:34 PM »

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Here we go hope this helps and hope they upload lol

Skratchski · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2014, 04:35 PM »

Have any of you guys ever used this on plastic parts??? My old weinman adjuster has a greyish tinge and was gonna use this on it cos it works superb on car trim.

just a thought.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Meguiars-Class-Detailer-Plastic-Care/dp/B001G4P5DQ

Skratchski · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2014, 04:38 PM »

Ahh right, yeah dye em. didnt realise they had that much fade on em. I think the Meg`s stuff youd have to keep applying from time to time.

hokuspokus74 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2014, 04:45 PM »

never tried it mate but could be worth a go,you reckon to dye these, jesus they would end up a real disaster am not joking,i found fine wire wool so might try it ,i wonder would brake fluid do anything or industrial paint stripper...hmmmmm dont really want to destroy these.

Skratchski · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2014, 04:47 PM »

i would say dont use wire wool, paint stripper or brake fluid on them. im not right up on plastic restoring but im sure youll do more harm than good with those methods.

NORTY40 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2014, 04:48 PM »

You could try aqua blasting , not as harsh as bead blasting . Some lads have had good results on Skyways

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2014, 04:50 PM »

Defo not brake fluid or anything like that.

Dying them is easy, I've done 2 sets, they were both black, but both successful.

You shouldn't need to go too far doing these.

fischflo · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2014, 05:08 PM »

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,17050.0.html

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,163196.msg1630788.html#msg1630788

hokuspokus74 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2014, 05:21 PM »

ok i wont use none of that stuff i had mentioned,so what type of dye is it you use and is it permanent etc,god i would need to look for something thats big enough to put the rims into,
what other procedures do you guy use and know off?

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2014, 05:25 PM »

Quote from: hokuspokus74 on February 17, 2014, 05:21 PM

ok i wont use none of that stuff i had mentioned,so what type of dye is it you use and is it permanent etc,god i would need to look for something thats big enough to put the rims into,
what other procedures do you guy use and know off?

You need a big plastic tub, I got mine from B&Q for £12, 2 packs of Rit dye available off eBay and 2 containers of table salt from the supermarket, you also need a wallpaper steamer that you can remove the bit that makes contact with the wall leaving a tube only.

Andy (dancetothebummersbeat) did some blue Z's last year for his Adidas build, pm him mate.

hokuspokus74 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2014, 05:48 PM »

Cheers retro,i will look him up and send him a pm need to get these sorted out and laced,and to try my hand a truing them,i left a pair of mike buff zs in chain reaction cycles,u ever heard of them? there charging me £70 to tru them as i had the built thats all needed doing to them,there a bloody con,so need to learn to tru wheels

the joys lol

graham

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2014, 05:53 PM »

Quote from: hokuspokus74 on February 17, 2014, 05:48 PM

Cheers retro,i will look him up and send him a pm need to get these sorted out and laced,and to try my hand a truing them,i left a pair of mike buff zs in chain reaction cycles,u ever heard of them? there charging me £70 to tru them as i had the built thats all needed doing to them,there a bloody con,so need to learn to tru wheels the joys lol

graham

I have heard of them Graham, and to be blunt mate, you're being mugged.

My local bike shop are building my wheels for £38 inc truing.

Redline · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2014, 06:23 PM »

I'd leave 'em.... look good to me

hokuspokus74 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2014, 06:43 PM »

Redline you think there ok but would it not look funny with that you see the blue bit then the sort of frosted look,or am i been fussy,but i like things to look good,hope my bikes all turn out ok lol they better or there for the scrappers "wantit"lol

retro there are a rip off big time,but the guy in my local wee bmx shop is away on a months holidays,but think hes back tomorrow,ive about 6-8 sets of need rebuilt,but dont want to be paying out crazy money.

graham

fischflo · « **Reply #16 on:** February 17, 2014, 06:45 PM »

Quote from: hokuspokus74 on February 17, 2014, 05:21 PM

ok i wont use none of that stuff i had mentioned,so what type of dye is it you use and is it permanent etc,

...?

second link i posted explicitly says Dying with RIT Liquid dye...

hokuspokus74 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 17, 2014, 06:58 PM »

lol you meany dying in r.i.p :p cheers

Skratchski · « **Reply #18 on:** February 17, 2014, 07:10 PM »

Hey Hokus, check this. someone else on here mentioned blasting.

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=200282&p=1

hokuspokus74 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 17, 2014, 07:15 PM »

yeah skratchi,i noticed that one and wow them came up excellent,even if you google on how to clean up rims there isnt a great deal on the matter in hand.

fischflo · « **Reply #20 on:** February 17, 2014, 09:11 PM »

Wow - they came up sweet, seems like blasting's a sure way to go

Quote from: hokuspokus74 on February 17, 2014, 07:15 PM

,even if you google on how to clean up rims there isnt a great deal on the matter in hand.

dude that's a 19 page thread dedicated to nothing but 'z rims restoring'......

NORTY40 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 17, 2014, 10:03 PM »

Here ya go Graham ..... bit closer to home

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,130061.0.html

region11 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 17, 2014, 11:02 PM »

My nos blue Z's had a similar effect. Maybe the fading wasn't quite so bad, but a good wd40 soaking and they look great on the bike.

hokuspokus74 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 18, 2014, 05:10 PM »

so how much of WD40 do you need,then what ya do with it after use,ive yellow ones aswell that might need it ...tell me this if i was to rebuild a rim using the radial lace what size of spokes would ya use for small flanges and large ones.

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 18, 2014, 05:19 PM »

Quote from: hokuspokus74 on February 18, 2014, 05:10 PM

so how much of WD40 do you need,then what ya do with it after use,ive yellow ones aswell that might need it ...tell me this if i was to rebuild a rim using the radial lace what size of spokes would ya use for small flanges and large ones.

194mm in a 4 cross pattern.