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Offline spadey99

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Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« on: January 25, 2014, 07:49 PM »
Hi guys

I got these full pinch flites coming but I need to know a few things...

It has an open bearing b b and I want to get some sealed ones...

What would fit? Ive seen the sealed ones for opc so would assume these would be ok off matey in japan? ?

What tpi would this be 24 or 28?

Thanks for any advice guys....


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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2014, 07:50 PM »
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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2014, 08:12 PM »
28 tpi for flights spadey.

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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2014, 08:14 PM »
They're 28tpi Steve & apparently the Tange/tioga ones don't fit as they're too wide to leave enough room to mount the cranks on the spindle.
Hadley 28tpi BB's or a Redline techmatic.I think someone did repro's of the techmatics on here a while back but can\t remember who?
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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2014, 08:18 PM »
Think was  joe6187 who made em techmatic repros .....says Glynn here http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,170434.msg1710998.html#msg1710998

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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 08:18 PM »
Mike your a star thanks...... Well loose b bs it is then  :LolLolLolLol:
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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 08:20 PM »
It's been a long time since I done any old school thinking, but I'm sure the only loose bob to fit Redlines are the Mongoose 28tpi, I can be shot down on this, but regardless the Goose ones do fit perfect 😳

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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 08:25 PM »
I have plenty of goose 28 tpi ones but it does come with a full b b just wondered if there was a sealed alternative at decent price...  :daumenhoch:
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2014, 08:27 PM »
I'm sure if you put in old mongoose bmx In ebay, there are a set of sealed for sale 👍

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2014, 08:44 PM »
The other alternative is get an unthreaded Redline spindle & use the newer sealed bb's  :daumenhoch:

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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2014, 08:52 PM »
Rich has one for sale just ask him if it fits.  :daumenhoch:

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,170741.0.html

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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2014, 08:57 PM »
Ask him if it fits....... I wouldnt dare......  :LolLolLolLol:
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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2014, 09:29 PM »
I been looking into this myself Steve with having a set too. I bought one of the Tioga BB's from Moonster (Ian) with Devilock's recommendation and as it is 28TPI it should fit. The retaining nut on it is quite thick so instead of using that one, use the thin one that come with your old school BB.

I will try mine out tomorrow and let you know okay  :daumenhoch:
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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2014, 09:42 PM »
Cheers terry much appreciated. .. then I can just buy one of them  :daumenhoch:
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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2014, 12:28 PM »
i did the same with a tioga one when the nut was too thick,fits fine with a thinner locknut.

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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2014, 12:46 PM »
As promised mate, as I cannot go outside and photograph my Kastan  :yahoo_silent:

This is the old Redline BB. I needed a new one due to pitting on the bearing races:-




And this is the Tioga BB I bought from Ian, Moonster on Eaby:-

**Note...The gold lock washer does not fit on the axle without prior modification**




This is the thickness difference of the locking nuts, new to the left, obviously  :D



The drive side bearing races are exactly the same:-



Redline:-



Tioga:-



The difference here is, the Tioga has the protrusion for the lock ring making it wider:-




So I fitted the BB cups and bearings using bith BB's and have found the following.

I set the BB cups 67 mm apart, the size of the BB on my Exhibitionist. Using the Redline BB, it looks like this on the axle:-



With the arm butted up to it:-



Using the Tioag BB WITHOUT the lock ring, it looks like this on the axle:-



With the arm butted up to it:-



Basically, you will be fine if you don't use the lock ring as it doesn't go over the axle anyway. The arm will be tightened against the bb and then tightened to the axle so it will not come undone when riding it.

You can always modify the lock ring to fit and use the Redline lock nut if you want, as that is thinner  :daumenhoch:

Hope that helps mate  :)
« Last Edit: January 26, 2014, 12:52 PM by GnarlyscootsŪ »
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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2014, 12:59 PM »
I use a new threadless axle with the modern sealed bearing kits.

Works a treat and costs less too.
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Re: Redline 80s flites full wrap b b help...
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2014, 08:45 PM »
Terry that is awesome info..... Nick do you just mean the new school axles? Will they fit onto old 80s flites??? then use the sealed new school bearings......  :daumenhoch:
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