Author Topic: Supergoose u.k Supergoose usa (Read 84481 times)

jimmyp · « **Reply #200 on:** November 25, 2007, 07:53 PM »

Lets make this a sticky

AtariAger · « **Reply #201 on:** November 25, 2007, 11:19 PM »

The difference is very noticable and I'm sure most are looking for the U.S. style Supergoose...That thick rear tubing is most excellent.

bobafett · « **Reply #202 on:** September 15, 2008, 10:35 PM »

Just bought a US supergoose 3 F&F on the back of this old thread !
Great info guys helped me out a lot even after all this time, maybe this thread should be a sticky as mentioned before !
(fat ass tubes, lower BB, three holed bridge - supergoose 3 ..... done)

eloopnai · « **Reply #203 on:** September 15, 2008, 11:55 PM »

remember reading this when i first found the site

i got a 84 uk supergoose

lighter than the us version

DIRTBIKER250F · « **Reply #204 on:** September 16, 2008, 12:55 AM »

Just read the full thread, av i now served my Mongoose/Supergoose time

Can i now look at the back end of gooses with a knowing smile

bobafett · « **Reply #205 on:** September 16, 2008, 06:52 PM »

Yeah it was all about looks rather than weight for me - I've always been one for a more exclusive model with a fat ass

kdw712 · « **Reply #206 on:** September 16, 2008, 07:53 PM »

what a great read

wonder what that extra letter C could mean ?
maybe full chromoly ?

davie1967 · « **Reply #207 on:** September 16, 2008, 08:49 PM »

i posted all the tube sizes on my supergoose on ere. its all gone

a quick summary..

all Uk bound (made in usa)supergeese had the fat rear end + 3 hole rear brake bridge. then around 1984 the taiwanese supergoose 3 arrived. stickered the same but with smaller diameter rear end tubes + downtube. ...i think oh and the rear chainstays are almost parallel to the ground=lower BB

jimmyp · « **Reply #208 on:** May 24, 2009, 07:05 PM »

Could we make this a sticky as somone else wants to know the difference, thanks

$:-\$

rickysupertuff · « **Reply #209 on:** October 06, 2009, 11:40 PM »

Just to add to the confusion of the matter, i have just got this today, i think it maybe a usa supergoose 3 but i would like an expert answer from someone who knows

. what about the forks tho. are they original? http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae43/rickysupertuff/bmx032.jpg
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae43/rickysupertuff/bmx035.jpg
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae43/rickysupertuff/bmx036.jpg
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae43/rickysupertuff/bmx038.jpg
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae43/rickysupertuff/bmx039-1.jpg

bobafett · « **Reply #210 on:** October 07, 2009, 12:02 AM »

Quote from: rickysupertuff on October 06, 2009, 11:40 PM

Just to add to the confusion of the matter, i have just got this today, i think it maybe a usa supergoose 3 but i would like an expert answer from someone who knows . what about the forks tho. are they original?

USA supergoose 3 with incorrect forks

rickysupertuff · « **Reply #211 on:** October 07, 2009, 12:08 AM »

i wasnt hopiong for that answer but thank you anyway.
what stem should this bike have. i have read that it should have an sr , and somewhere else said the pro class stem!
Is the crank correct sugino 1 piece ?

Thanks for your help on this worsening barn find

kdw712 · « **Reply #212 on:** October 07, 2009, 12:43 AM »

as john says US spec super with non mongoose forks
Sept 1983 built

it needs - pro class every thing

check out www.vintagemongoose.com and

http://www.kdw712.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/mongoosescans.html

http://www.kdw712.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/scans.html

AtariAger · « **Reply #213 on:** October 07, 2009, 01:01 AM »

US Supergoose 3's...

kevin (A.K.A) kai riviere · « **Reply #214 on:** October 07, 2009, 10:25 AM »

simple case of geometry changes & different tube sizes are most likely to do with strength & rigidity issues. If you change the geometry then you either increase or decrease stresses on certain parts of the frame structure, altering its structural integrity, crucial in Bmx. Back then they wouldn't have had the luxury of sophisticated computer programmes to test stress points etc, so this info would have most likely been obtained from rider feedback. I'm "GUESSING" that there may possibly have been flex issues at the rear end so by increasing the rear triangle tube circumference & diameter (larger tube size but thinner tube wall thickness) they've achieved a stiffer/more rigid rear end (or reduction in flex) without additional weight. Hence why they both weigh the same. Innovation my friend.........or what Bmx'ers would call........"TRICK"!

xGoose · « **Reply #215 on:** November 02, 2009, 01:46 PM »

Great thread, I bought an US SG3 a while ago so its very informative! God bless the Goose quagmire!

I gotta ask Q that I dont think has been asked yet, what are the distinguishing marks of US SG3 forks? From the original pic on page 1 the only difference to look at I notice is the very tiny extra bit less of tube between the top of the forks and the lip of the steerer tube. Ive outlined it this pic below but is this it?

bobafett · « **Reply #216 on:** November 02, 2009, 02:24 PM »

My chro-mo forks that came with my US SG3 measure (if you hook a tape to the flat where a bearing race would sit) 326mm to the tip of the dropout. The standard cali forks measure 335mm measured the same way and the later lung-i chro-mo ones measure 330mm.

Oh and they're all different weights - hopefully that has helped to confuse you even more

AtariAger · « **Reply #217 on:** November 04, 2009, 12:15 AM »

Quote from: xGoose on November 02, 2009, 01:46 PM

Great thread, I bought an US SG3 a while ago so its very informative! God bless the Goose quagmire!

I gotta ask Q that I dont think has been asked yet, what are the distinguishing marks of US SG3 forks? From the original pic on page 1 the only difference to look at I notice is the very tiny extra bit less of tube between the top of the forks and the lip of the steerer tube. Ive outlined it this pic below but is this it?

The correct Super forks are on the left...

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Trust me.

The Burner King · « **Reply #218 on:** April 21, 2012, 10:53 PM »

Just read all this thread, what an awesome read

paulgreenall · « **Reply #219 on:** May 06, 2013, 10:12 PM »

Im a newbie and I've read it..

Some read...

Quote from: jimmyp on January 07, 2007, 12:38 PM

Quote from: AtariAger on January 07, 2007, 12:52 AM
Quote from: bananaman on August 14, 2006, 12:28 PM
Am lookin for a decent Proclass and am now shattin it in case I end up with a supergoose frame decalled up as a Proclass $:-\$

I can't believe I missed this thread!...

The BB is how you tell if it is a PC or not...dead give away. The tubing on a PC is thinner than all other Mongoose models, except for the Rupe Signature model. But there are other specs for the Rupe as well. If you ever consider buying a "Pro Class"...always ask to check out the BB or ask to see a pic of it before purchasing it.

Thats why i brought the thread back. There should be a rule when you join rad you must read this thread

BMX1973 · « **Reply #220 on:** May 07, 2013, 07:48 PM »

me too

Quote from: The Burner King on April 21, 2012, 10:53 PM

Just read all this thread, what an awesome read

DIRTBIKER250F · « **Reply #221 on:** June 20, 2013, 11:46 PM »

Did the ruler ever weigh his Expert

oldschoolrb · « **Reply #222 on:** June 22, 2013, 04:54 PM »

dont think he did mate good reading though

JimBowen · « **Reply #223 on:** May 28, 2014, 03:21 AM »

WOW, Jesus, what a thread

ThelmaViaduct · « **Reply #224 on:** May 01, 2018, 11:05 PM »

To throw a spanner in the works...(UK based)

As a kid 1984 crimbo ish, I had a new BMX, chrome frame and forks, pro class rims, pro class chain ring, mongoose cranks, renthal seat post and bars, black mongoose pads but the frame and forks were stickered up as Ammaco.

It looked exactly like a UK Supergoose but the stickers were not Supergoose/Mongoose. Seem to remember it was £150 in the sale, should have been £300.

Author Topic: Supergoose u.k Supergoose usa (Read 84481 times)

eloopnai

davie1967

rickysupertuff

rickysupertuff

kevin (A.K.A) kai riviere

xGoose

The Burner King

paulgreenall