How much is a S&M Holmes frame and forks worth?

[jimwise68]

Got the opportunity to buy a Holmes frame and forks was just wondering on how much cash to offer.

its a chrome frame and forks, with large plain red decals on the down tube. No idea on headset size but its in good condition without any rust from what I could see. it was hidden behind a few old road bikes and looking very sad and lonely. Was f&f, with laid back post, stem and crank. I dont even remember what the crank looked like, lol.

Will go back and barter but need some info first.

[Dannywhac]

It depends on what year it is - by sounds (from the deecs) it'll be either a 1" 94-96 or a 1 1/8" 96 (or oversize 97). Difficult to say but F&F £70-90.

[jimwise68]

Cheers Danny, are there any tell tale signs I should look out for. I was told but have forgotten lol lol

[Dannywhac]

Well - deffo check around the downtube/headtube weld - there might be small cracks on the two little gussets there - that's not a prob as a lot of Holmes and DB frames suffer from it and it doesn't mean it's gonna go if you ride it (often wondered if it's just down to el-crappo welding there). What you should check though is under that gusset and see if the headtube welds still good

Check the rear drops where it's welded to the stays as well as they go there sometimes.

If it's a 1" then it's worth more (although it's unlikely you never know it might be an earlier 'Murray Stay' version). If it's got quite large rear drops like this one:

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/66378

then it's not worth paying quite as much fella - and it'll weigh a ton.

Either way it's deffo worth grabbing as the Holmes is a fookin lovely bike to ride - nice roomy toptube length, rear-t's just right for chucking you over jumps

[jimwise68]

Thanks Danny, may be going back on Friday to see him so will check. Dont think it had the huge rear drops though, but im not 100% sure.

[Pooch]

Thanks Danny, may be going back on Friday to see him so will check. Dont think it had the huge rear drops though, but im not 100% sure.

Get it!!!!!

[Gary72]

Well???

[jimwise68]

didnt get a chance to go down there this weekend. But will be going down this Friday, sorry for the teasing 

[Dannywhac]

didnt get a chance to go down there this weekend. But will be going down this Friday, sorry for the teasing 

If you don't just pop me his address and I'll go down to 'appraise' it for you (and by that I mean buy it) 

[Gary72]

didnt get a chance to go down there this weekend. But will be going down this Friday, sorry for the teasing 

Battery flat???

[Gary72]

And?