Top Secret Hutch Delivery

[rodriguez]

Woe betied anybody who treads on the hallowed memory of Hutch, poor old JDB.

Hutch were all fur coat and no knickers, make it shiney and in the USA (well in the beginning anyway), tell everyone it's the best (backed up by reviews  in mags they paid loads for advertising), make it the most expensive brand (they certainly did that alright) and they will believe you it's the best (impressionable kids who didn't know any better), hence the Nora Cup wins.

Unfortunately the bikes weren't as good as the hype the triple chrome flaked and fell off, the frames cracked, the cranks and pedals broke.

The BMX version of The Great Rock and Roll Swindle.   

JDB's stuff is probably better quality than anything Hutch ever made themselves (not thruster, profile, mcs, vdc).

[hunterdubber]

So no other 80's bmx broke  then   

Or was it every make ,,, err that may be all of them   

Not till they 90's was there a bike truly suitable for BMX

You see more repaired Rippers than any other bike ,, but they were and still are ultra cool and don't have the "sheep like "  cool to hate Hutch stigma.
Yes later built Hutch bits were built in Taiwan ,, but so was virtually every other by the late 80's
That's the way the whole bike industry went.
But to call the early stuff pre 85 is unfounded ,, because the actual manufacturers making Hutch were Thruster,Profile,Robinson,,all of which are highly respected.if you own any of the Pro racer framesets or bars you'll have a very high standard built item of that era.
Its nothing new ,, if someone gets a 911 , people say "ooooo he's having a midlife crisis ". ,when they'd love to have one in a heartbeat 

Hutch was one of the ultimate sought after brands,,, undeniably. 

 That's not just my opinion it's
  FACT 

 

[hunterdubber]

Just to add

Does anyone know who builds the latest frames. Is it a factory in Taiwan (which isn't a bad thing ) where most of today's  professional standard £350 +  frames are made like ,Fit,etc

Or more likely ,,,comissioned to Johnny chopper to produce in_house. Who has a reputation to make well made quality products more than suitable for today racers.

As Diggler says the price  certainly isn't in question ,,the bars are £70 and the rest is £420 , with chrome forks being around £125 that would make these frames around £295 .
Doesn't sound bad at all comparatively 

[Redline]

They look real nice but upon close inspection I personally feel the finish and attention to detail on the new Skyway Frame sets is better... so that's what I'll be going for next year 

[Jon The Bassist]

Just for a bit of balance, I had a new Curtis Pro from about 13 (being a big lump) which was beautifully made. However it wasn't the quickest pro F&F about by any means...   When I had the chance to get a well-used 2nd hand Hutch Pro F&F I jumped at the chance. Yes, the chrome wasn't as deep but it handled fantastically and was a really quick race bike. It was also strong - I was 6' and about 14 stone when I finished racing as a kid. Although it's hard to believe now    I also jumped a lot in them days, including jumping out of berms to flat landings. I also broke a number of parts including cranks, seatpost, and some CW cruiser bars and the Hutch was always fine - I think there was enough flex to take some of my inelegant landings.

These new Hutch's have been raced, and I think they are more of a proper rider's bike than an ornament/pub bike.

[rodriguez]

So no other 80's bmx broke  then   

Or was it every make ,,, err that may be all of them   

Not till they 90's was there a bike truly suitable for BMX

You see more repaired Rippers than any other bike ,, but they were and still are ultra cool and don't have the "sheep like "  cool to hate Hutch stigma.
Yes later built Hutch bits were built in Taiwan ,, but so was virtually every other by the late 80's
That's the way the whole bike industry went.
But to call the early stuff pre 85 is unfounded ,, because the actual manufacturers making Hutch were Thruster,Profile,Robinson,,all of which are highly respected.if you own any of the Pro racer framesets or bars you'll have a very high standard built item of that era.
Its nothing new ,, if someone gets a 911 , people say "ooooo he's having a midlife crisis ". ,when they'd love to have one in a heartbeat 

Hutch was one of the ultimate sought after brands,,, undeniably. 

 That's not just my opinion it's
  FACT 

 

Not all pre 85 Hutch were outsourced to Profile etc, they went in house circa 82 and Profile stopped making stuff for them, Thruster were used when Hutch couldn't meet the orders up to around late 84.

I'm not a Hutch hater I just don't accept they were the best BMX out there as the clever marketing hype suggested, it doesn't look like you think they were either as you quite rightly say they were one of the best which is right.

I honestly wouldn't love to have one in a heartbeat, well maybe a Profile made Hutch 

[58 delray]

comes in three sizes, 20.5, 21, 21.5 inches

[jT Racing]

makes no sense. hutch isn't allowed to be hutch anymore, hence hutchinson.  just put some hutch decals on your s&m or fit or fbm etc.. same thing no doubt better made too.

[58 delray]

i dont get this, most bmx companys have been sold/bought out by other companys or people....whats the difference with it being hutch in this case, its not like they are anything special, they were were over priced and crap quality bitd, yes their stuff looked nice but thats about it. we had so much of their stuff come back to the shop broken back then that i actually tried to dissuade people from buying it.
just hope this new stuff is better quality no matter who its made by.

[hunterdubber]

 

That's right , I ve said one of the best brands ,,, and the rest is not directed to you Rod and I wasn't trying to school you personally about Hutch production history 
Just a general reply to the concensus of those who for some reason are Hutch  haters ,,purely because they are in an inflated price bracket  and because theyve seen someone else say"they're overpriced and broke a lot " so they repeat it
That doesn't mean you Andy , before you start 

One of the biggest biycle scaremongering urban myths is you can't ride Campagnolo sheriff star hubs on anywhere but a velodrome ,  because Sheldon Brown bicycle shop posted a thread of a shattered one apparently whilst riding on a road bike .
As a consequence every man  and his dog now swears blind Sherriff star hubs are purely for track Kierin racing and will explode if they came within 500 metres of a leaf on the road .I bet 90% of those replying have n't owned a pair  Which  is bollocks because Last year I got the pair Winnie Wright used for thrashing round doing BMX nationals almost 30 years ago .
Urban myths ,a bit like Chinese whispers , exaggerated  by people who haven't had first hand experience 

I've said it before there are far far dearer makes that just don't attract the same  negative comments .A trend ,,rather than first hand knowing ? 

For me JMC are  beautiful , well made and the DY and AP ARE certainly more than your average frameset
I absolutely love em    They don't attract bad press but they'd snap like any other bike,,,hell they were made bya road bike manufacturer for God's sake 

[58 delray]

i can only go by my experience of working in and managing bike shops from 81-86 (youngs bmx being one of them)
hutch stuff broke all the time and i'm not talking about race stuff being used in the skate parks, i'm talking about on the track, darren wood snapped hutch pedals out of the gate !! the cranks were a crap design with the spindle and broke all the time. the frames broke near the head tube.
i know you didnt mean me christian but i do have first hand experience from back then of most of the brands so am of the opinion that hutch were over priced for what they were and cant understand the mythical thing they have become.
JMC broke just as much like you say 
i could start a whole new thread about parts and frame reliabilty and warranty issues from back 

[Jaan]

we can all recollect breakage stories for every manufacturer but I have to agree that Aerospeeds were particularly crap which probably goes some way to explain their inflated "value" today... Because there are so few left in one piece (or 3 piece)

[Badbaldie]

Just to add

Does anyone know who builds the latest frames. Is it a factory in Taiwan (which isn't a bad thing ) where most of today's  professional standard £350 +  frames are made like ,Fit,etc

Or more likely ,,,comissioned to Johnny chopper to produce in_house. Who has a reputation to make well made quality products more than suitable for today racers.

As Diggler says the price  certainly isn't in question ,,the bars are £70 and the rest is £420 , with chrome forks being around £125 that would make these frames around £295 .
Doesn't sound bad at all comparatively 

to answer the question "is it made in TAIWAN ?"... the answer is  YES . and the main reason they are made in Taiwan is simply this. nobody in England can make/mass produce bike frames anymore. yes there are bespoke bike frame makers , but the cost is BIG. the question has been asked and some well known companies/people have tried to "remake" bikes we on radbmx are well acustomed to. a well known company tried to get back into making a limited number of frames not so long ago.. looking up their old "contacts" and after knocking on many doors  and discussing the posabilities about the idea of making some frame sets the same reply was given time after time untill all the doors hand been shut ... if you wana build bmx frames you need to go to TAIWAN.

[In2bmx]

No need .

[Gizmo]

Regardless of the price i wouldent want one .
Hutch bmx never floated my boat bitd
Nor does it now , just my opionion .
Needless to say cut the lugs off on the back
& it will be a cool old school style bmx .
Them lugs got no place on old school 

[OllyHall]

You can but a ns frame made in Taiwan from not so shit of a company for £150? They are just cashing in on the name, like the previous post all of them USA made frames are similar prices as this yello shit! It's all bollox! Just buy somthing ns if you wanna ride it

[VOIVOD]

 If anyone here is thinking about purchasing one of these & hacking the lugs off,give me a shout.For just £500 I`ll do it for you.I`ll also remove the seattube,headtube and BB shell.Hell,I`ll even cut a few inches off the front end.1" headtube,US BB shell,seattube & rewelding/chrome will be extra though...
It is what is-a newschool frame with an oldschool name,nothing more,nothing less...

[Dark Diggler]

lol, if anyone buys one and does that, they are a twat.

[Pooch]

lol, if anyone buys one and does that, they are a twat.

thats scrapped that idea..

[jT Racing]

hutch was forced to change it's name. how the fook is that no longer valid. even if the other company went under, you would still have to go through the courts to have the decision overturned.

[crazycraig]

So who's buying one ?

[hobbsy]

No need .

You're right,

 

[Gnarlyscoots]

So who's buying one ?

Not me....

[rodriguez]

hutch was forced to change it's name. how the fook is that no longer valid. even if the other company went under, you would still have to go through the courts to have the decision overturned.

Very good question.

Hutch changed it's name to Hutchins and was later bought by the same person who owned CW/Revcore.

The Hutch brand name became the property Hutch Sporting Goods (the American football helmet manufacturer), my guess is that JDB bought the name from them.

http://www.hutch-bikes.com/hutch_history.htm

[wazza]

So who's buying one ?

God no...