Author Topic: Who decided Mid school started in 87 ??? Surely not..... 89-90 at least ?? (Read 18015 times)

dordymush · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2013, 10:13 PM »

i know its only a date but it means me not taking 3 of my later 90's bikes now to mk as i never knew you put this daft date on the mid school section s & s $:-\$ .
they deffo not going in no new school section thats for sure

billstup · « **Reply #26 on:** June 19, 2013, 11:10 PM »

Old school is 1" headset and caliper brakes, as soon as they started to put brake lugs on frames then that must be mid school, and the first frames that had brake lugs was around 1987, so that's how it is

midschooljon · « **Reply #27 on:** June 19, 2013, 11:17 PM »

Quote from: billstup on June 19, 2013, 11:10 PM

Old school is 1" headset and caliper brakes.

Thats basically every mid school race bike up to 94.

stidds · « **Reply #28 on:** June 19, 2013, 11:47 PM »

I just jumped over the atlantic to have a look at what vintage and society say midschool started.

Radbmx 1987 onwards.
Vintage 1987 onwards.
Society 1988 onwards.

Gordy · « **Reply #29 on:** June 19, 2013, 11:51 PM »

Quote from: midschooljon on June 19, 2013, 11:17 PM

Quote from: billstup on June 19, 2013, 11:10 PM
Old school is 1" headset and caliper brakes.

Thats basically every mid school race bike up to 94.

Exactly

billstup · « **Reply #30 on:** June 19, 2013, 11:52 PM »

Quote from: midschooljon on June 19, 2013, 11:17 PM

Quote from: billstup on June 19, 2013, 11:10 PM
Old school is 1" headset and caliper brakes.

Thats basically every mid school race bike up to 94.

That`s not to say that every bike after that is mid school, just that`s when they started

Funkyworm · « **Reply #31 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:06 AM »

Quote from: billstup on June 19, 2013, 11:52 PM

Quote from: midschooljon on June 19, 2013, 11:17 PM
Quote from: billstup on June 19, 2013, 11:10 PM
Old school is 1" headset and caliper brakes.

Thats basically every mid school race bike up to 94.

That`s not to say that every bike after that is mid school, just that`s when they started

All of my 87's have 1" & callipers ( you see this shit is keeping me awake )

BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN · « **Reply #32 on:** June 20, 2013, 08:29 AM »

'89+ mid

stidds · « **Reply #33 on:** June 20, 2013, 08:34 AM »

Guys it will be staying 87 start for midschool in line with our American and Australian cousins.

I can and my change the end date to later if you want, but not the start.

So if you want the end date changed then discuss.

If you want to discuss the start date, do it via pm as I will ignore or delete the post.

pickle · « **Reply #34 on:** June 20, 2013, 08:36 AM »

From nearly 4 years ago now

BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN · « **Reply #35 on:** June 20, 2013, 09:11 AM »

mid school end - 2011

neil · « **Reply #36 on:** June 20, 2013, 09:33 AM »

Would say the end date 2000

steve69 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 20, 2013, 10:02 AM »

Quote from: neil on June 20, 2013, 09:33 AM

Would say the end date 2000

I agree Neil, otherwise my one and only mid school would be new school.... And I don't like the sound of that

not johndub71 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 20, 2013, 10:08 AM »

I would say the start of knee saver bars and bash guards with indicate this.

dordymush · « **Reply #39 on:** June 20, 2013, 11:21 AM »

i shall say no more on the subject then as the boss men have spoke.
i'll keep my "mid school" builds for only me

from wikipedia

Quote

Generally speaking the "Old School" generation is from 1969, the very beginning of BMX to 1987 or 1988, during the first major slump in the popularity of BMX racing and the height of popularity of Old School Freestyling. "Mid School" is generally considered to be from 1988 to 1999, which includes the first slump in Freestyle BMX in 1988-89 and the resurgence of BMX racing beginning in 1990 and it really taking off again in 1993. "New/Current School" or today's BMX is considered to be from 2000 to the present day with the emphasis on Dirt Jumping contest and streetstyle and deemphasis on racing. With the racers, it will not be perfect demarcations. Some Old Schoolers raced well into the Mid School era of the 1990s,

stidds · « **Reply #40 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:53 PM »

Quote from: dordymush on June 20, 2013, 11:21 AM

i shall say no more on the subject then as the boss men have spoke.
i'll keep my "mid school" builds for only me

from wikipedia

Quote
Generally speaking the "Old School" generation is from 1969, the very beginning of BMX to 1987 or 1988, during the first major slump in the popularity of BMX racing and the height of popularity of Old School Freestyling. "Mid School" is generally considered to be from 1988 to 1999, which includes the first slump in Freestyle BMX in 1988-89 and the resurgence of BMX racing beginning in 1990 and it really taking off again in 1993. "New/Current School" or today's BMX is considered to be from 2000 to the present day with the emphasis on Dirt Jumping contest and streetstyle and deemphasis on racing. With the racers, it will not be perfect demarcations. Some Old Schoolers raced well into the Mid School era of the 1990s,

I don't get it Dave, what exactly do you want us to do?

I have said I don't mind changing the end year, but even your quote says 1988 for midschool, where we and vintagebmx use 1987. Does one year make a difference?

As for the end date, choose a bloody year between you and I will change the date on the board it is that easy.

Somebody make a thread with a poll attached, take a vote then tell me.

pickle · « **Reply #41 on:** June 20, 2013, 01:02 PM »

get your votes in

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,163638.0.html

stidds · « **Reply #42 on:** June 20, 2013, 01:13 PM »

Quote from: pickle on June 20, 2013, 01:02 PM

get your votes in

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,163638.0.html

Thanks Rob, and please guys once this has been decided stfu about mid school dates as I am bored with them

Dark Diggler · « **Reply #43 on:** June 20, 2013, 03:37 PM »

Quote from: markyp on June 19, 2013, 05:52 PM

bmx died at the end of 86.

Mat Hoffman didn't think so

Devilock · « **Reply #44 on:** June 20, 2013, 03:53 PM »

Quote from: Dark Diggler on June 20, 2013, 03:37 PM

Quote from: markyp on June 19, 2013, 05:52 PM
bmx died at the end of 86.
Mat Hoffman didn't think so

Indeed. Matt reinvented BMX.

Legend.

meticulous · « **Reply #45 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:53 PM »

so what era will bmx's be classed in the year 2048?

surely 'new school' cannot last 50 years...

maybe 'mid school' will stretch out a bit as time goes on...

one things for sure though 'old school' definately started to fizzle out after 1985 for about a year, i never heard the word BMX after 1986 till about 2006...

DIRTBIKER250F · « **Reply #46 on:** June 20, 2013, 06:22 PM »

Quote from: meticulous on June 20, 2013, 05:53 PM

i never heard the word BMX after 1986 till about 2006...

Thats cos you were in clown school

john4130 · « **Reply #47 on:** June 20, 2013, 11:18 PM »

i've never quit bmx since i started in 81 and for me old school means up till 89-90. frame designs never changed drastically untill about this time when then bashguard bikes started coming out and drop outs started getting thicker.

Swivel · « **Reply #48 on:** June 21, 2013, 11:19 PM »

Old school to me ends at 89, that's when sponsors dropped out and bikes changed even more so, 87-88 still to me I consider old school as not much changed during 86-88, the riders changed but not the bikes as much

ron burgundy · « **Reply #49 on:** June 22, 2013, 12:52 PM »

When Freeagent introduced the Pro xl every thing changed. The blue print for all modern frames. 21" top tube 74 deg head angle... 1986. Re stickered by the pros, copied by many.