Author Topic: Suntour coaster onto skyway graphite ? (Read 16699 times)

dp and Chopper Dude · « **Reply #50 on:** May 17, 2013, 01:53 PM »

What about getting an 80's rear tuff with a bolt on coaster and swapping that over. Or get a rear Acorn Freestyle and swipe the coaster off that and use the Skyway flanges?

SteveG · « **Reply #51 on:** May 17, 2013, 02:23 PM »

Hi just read through this and picked up on a few things. As far as I know coaster hubs used on Skyways need to be steel as shown in the replacement hub picture fitted to either a standard Tuff or a graphite. With the old rivits removed you have to twist the hub enough so that it's clear of the moulded plastic bits oinside the wheel and it should then come out, no need to remove the end plates.
Were Grapites ever available with coasters or were they specially made ?

Good luck with the build, you have to start somewhere, why not wheels !

fischflo · « **Reply #52 on:** May 17, 2013, 05:24 PM »

my god, he's right

pics courtesy coasty and Maurice

well, IF a graphite mag has the same characteritics as a regular plastic one ...............then ................ it looks as if you should be able to get any old suntour coaster hub (from any ol tuff2) ...... "paint" it blue (anno or whatever goes..)...... and just POP IT IN YOUR GRAPHITE.

SteveG ....... thank god you've got eyes !

http://www.rathergood.com/hedgehogs ....

flange

fischflo · « **Reply #53 on:** May 17, 2013, 05:31 PM »

Quote from: SteveG on May 17, 2013, 02:23 PM

Were Grapites ever available with coasters or were they specially made ?

.... $:-\$ good question !

SteveG · « **Reply #54 on:** May 17, 2013, 05:58 PM »

I'm no expert but wonder if graphites were aimed at racers so might not have ever been fitted with coaster hubs.
I think the freewheel hub shown above is a steel flanged one from a Tuff 2.

If you are going to do it then you need to find a really good way of re-producing the correct rivits to hold the hub in. If you don't then you might as well just use a standard tuff with a coaster already fitted.
Wonder what the guys who have already built replicas of Bob Haros bike have done ?

leehunt1 · « **Reply #55 on:** May 17, 2013, 06:05 PM »

Im enjoying this thread, its actually what we should be talking about on RAD

AKGOFF · « **Reply #56 on:** May 17, 2013, 07:49 PM »

I know a guy in OZ who has one of the original Skyway riveting machines and also original Campy hardware. I'm thinking of getting a red or blue set done with 2nd gen flanges.

Adam

Gnarlyscoots · « **Reply #57 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:07 PM »

Get your $1000 out Lee...

Here are your campy hubbed Graphites

http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/93234#.UZZVvtjRV6I

Jaan · « **Reply #58 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:39 PM »

They're not the right wheels Terry!

leehunt1 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 18, 2013, 06:34 AM »

Quote from: Jaan on May 17, 2013, 11:39 PM

They're not the right wheels Terry!

Please explain chris..?

dancetothedrummersbeat · « **Reply #60 on:** May 18, 2013, 08:49 AM »

They're not campy hubs. The seller listed the item incorrectly. They have skyway hubs

fischflo · « **Reply #61 on:** May 18, 2013, 10:36 PM »

They're not the right wheels TERRY!

leehunt1 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 19, 2013, 06:21 AM »

Quote from: dancetothedrummersbeat on May 18, 2013, 08:49 AM

They're not campy hubs. The seller listed the item incorrectly. They have skyway hubs

one of them would do me as it looks like im ripping out the rear campy hub

leehunt1 · « **Reply #63 on:** May 19, 2013, 12:42 PM »

Just been reading this thread on the museum and it looks like a freewheel does go with a coaster brake..??

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=459634&p=6

fischflo · « **Reply #64 on:** May 19, 2013, 01:05 PM »

yeah, you can pop a freecoaster on them - munny spoke about that, i mean about that heavy ACS kit.

Jaan · « **Reply #65 on:** May 19, 2013, 03:38 PM »

Don't forget to check out Maurice Meyer for Skyway info

http://mauricemeyer.net/cgi/mm.pl?page=BMX/index

Jaan · « **Reply #66 on:** May 19, 2013, 03:43 PM »

Gen 1s

Gnarlyscoots · « **Reply #67 on:** May 19, 2013, 03:49 PM »

You mean this Lee

It's an ACS freecoaster kit. Easy to install and easy to use

leehunt1 · « **Reply #68 on:** May 19, 2013, 04:08 PM »

Ahhh all is becoming clear now..
thanks chaps, now i need to work out exactly how Bob had his set up, could message that JT guy who built the bike on the museum

fischflo · « **Reply #69 on:** May 19, 2013, 04:09 PM »

Quote from: leehunt1 on May 19, 2013, 12:42 PM

... and it looks like a freewheel DOES GO with a coaster brake..??

I thought you wanted to turn a f/w into a coaster? As I see it, this kit won't help you with that, especially since you want it real deal.
Means: you need a spare wheel with a (suntour) COASTER hub inorder to IMPLANT that into a graphite.

leehunt1 · « **Reply #70 on:** May 19, 2013, 06:28 PM »

Quote from: AKGOFF on May 17, 2013, 07:49 PM

I know a guy in OZ who has one of the original Skyway riveting machines and also original Campy hardware. I'm thinking of getting a red or blue set done with 2nd gen flanges.

Adam

Do i have to send him the wheel or can it be done here in the uk by anyone..?
I dont fancy sending a £600 graphite to oz for someone to f@ck it right up..

so this is the next conundrum how would i remove and replace the rivet thingys

leehunt1 · « **Reply #71 on:** May 19, 2013, 06:56 PM »

Just emaild JT on the museum

Hi Jeff

I need some advice on the build i am doing, its the same as one of your bikes
the haro freestyler BMX PLUS cover
heres my thread on here
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=509792

Im a member on www.radbmx.co.uk , and we have been discussing the rear wheel set up on the bike
wondering if you removed the campy hub from the rear graphite and fitted the sun tour coaster..?
or did you buy the wheel like this..? ie did skyway produce a graphite with a coaster..?
I have basically said that Bob Haro must have had the wheel modified like this..? is this correct

I hope you can help me with this part of the puzzle, and maybe future questions (hopefully not to many)

Many Thanks

Lee

fischflo · « **Reply #72 on:** May 19, 2013, 07:29 PM »

Quote from: leehunt1 on May 19, 2013, 06:28 PM

so this is the next conundrum how would i remove and replace the rivet thingys

Quote from: fischflo on May 17, 2013, 12:03 PM

the riveting can be done on way or another
look f.ex here
-> http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=113259.msg1105156#msg1105156 or
-> http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=244347&p=1

...and i believe you shouldn't be afraid to send your mags to waza -- i'd rather only not count on it

leehunt1 · « **Reply #73 on:** May 19, 2013, 09:13 PM »

Just got a reply from another museum member jedi101

Regarding the coaster brake... I have two sets of white Tuffs in my Master build thread. The set with the metal flanges front, and rear, (84's used on the 85 Haro catalogue and Freestyler Magazine test bike) have the rear freewheel hub with Suntour freewheel. The other is a NOS 85 set with the rear Suntour coaster brake. It is fitted with a ACS Freecoaster Freewheel, in place of the fixed 16 tooth cog. The ACS Freecoaster allows you to have the option of a freewheel with just the turn of two screws. I don't believe the ACS freecoaster was available until the mid 80's, so it would never have been used on the Freestylers. The Graphite Tuffs used on Bob Haro's bikes were strictly Suntour coaster brake rear hubs, with no freewheel, and gold front Campy hubs. I hope this information helps. Please keep me posted on your progress, and I will follow your thread as well.