Is this an early Freestyler or made by Torker?

[lloydi]

I posted some pictures of my Haro Freestyler on Flickr a while back (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianlloyd/sets/375321/).



It's a 1982 model (from memory - owned by me since the old days, not a recent purchase) but I just had someone comment that it wasn't a Haro Master because they (Masters) didn't have a serial on the rear drop-out (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianlloyd/15592996/in/set-375321/). The thing is, I never claimed it was a Haro Master - I always knew it as simply a 'Haro Freestyler'. Masters were later, right?



He's commented:

somewhere i read that they didn't make the master until 1985 . again I know little about these first bikes other than torker made them and they are super rare . The pics of your bike is the only clue of one in 24 years.

So, the question is this: is the bike I've got a super rare thing now? I think he's assumed that anything pre- Master from Haro = Torker, but I think what I have is basically an early Freestyler.

Anyone shed any light on this? Please check out the few pics that I have put up on Flickr for more details.

Thanks!

[weston]

IT IS A GENUINE 1ST MODEL HARO FREESTYLER MADE BY TORKER, IF YOU SELL IT EXPECT AROUND THE £500 MARK IN THAT KIND OF NICK

[lloydi]

IT IS A GENUINE 1ST MODEL HARO FREESTYLER MADE BY TORKER, IF YOU SELL IT EXPECT AROUND THE £500 MARK IN THAT KIND OF NICK

So I know, what is that uniquely identifies it as being made by Torker? As opposed to simply Gen 1 Freestyler? Or are they one of the same?

Gotta love the serial on it - 1138 (sci-fi fans and film buffs will get that reference!)

[weston]

they are the same one

[billstup]

It`s a gen 1 Haro Freestyler with the right sequence of serial numbers but in the wrong place 

Perhaps they just made a mistake that day 

Get some washers on those front and rear dropouts though 

[ronnie360]

that is a gen 1 and i want it  still a nice frame all these years on 

[P0LL0]

As in TX 1138 

[DR VINOAH]

As in TX 1138 

THX 1138 ,movie by george lucas made in 1973,

also the number plate of one of georges hotrods as a lad in the 60,s

and the number plate for harrison fords characters car plate in american grafitti

[ronnie360]

As in TX 1138 

THX 1138 ,movie by george lucas made in 1973,

also the number plate of one of georges hotrods as a lad in the 60,s

and the number plate for harrison fords characters car plate in american grafitti

you dont miss a thing vinoah 

[JAY]

Gen 1 for deffo , early aswell .The serial number is in the correct place aswell , Billy the frame is upside down  lol.....The number is on the inside of the drive side dropout .The T in the serial number tells you its Torker ,The double letters and four numbers means its production date is Apr 1983 . Freestylers aren't that rare but fetch good money .Also early masters had the same type of serial number and are in the same place as they were made by Torker , These are rare .Yours is deffo gen 1 freestyler.

very nice fella.....

[stuntmaster]

so what if serial number started with a j

[JAY]

   maybe a Jorker Paul  ........